@mattganzak: Tough week for Anthropic, first Fable 5 gets shut down by the US Government. Now they have a lawsuit for false advertising to deal with. Lawsuit states that the 20x Claude Max plan only gives 6x more usage. What comes next? #anthropiclawsuit #claude #claudecode #ai #aiautomation

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Andrej Boleslavský :
Then they shouldn't promote it as 20x if it's 6x
2026-06-16 23:59:58
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captaincookiecrunch
Captain Crunch :
Local model is the future. Whats needed to be done is to close the gap between local and cloud without the hardware wall
2026-06-17 05:55:48
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blubberstick
The Messenger :
I got shut down at 15% usage yesterday on all my sessions. Basically said they were limiting usage/throttling. So I paid for 20x, but they still nerfed me.
2026-06-17 15:27:06
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markyt789
Mark 🥸 :
Codex is worse recently. I feel like Anthropic’s rate limits have actually improved over the last 6 months.
2026-06-17 16:40:48
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smlkkelboefje
SMlKKELBOEFJE :
They just lowered the compute yesterday. Claude had been hallucinating after an hour of work. Since yesterday it's after 3 questions. They are dilluting the usage or the quality
2026-06-17 10:21:27
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waitwhata
waitwhat :
Anthropic is greedy
2026-06-17 12:48:00
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uwuclxdy
cloudy~ :𝟹 :
the thing is that this is not even correct. you cant compare the usage which is on % because you dont know the denominator or sum. because anthropic gives you a higher 5h limit on the max plan and you can burn more in one go. what they should be comparing against is raw token usage and see that anthropic aint tryna do this
2026-06-17 08:53:41
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fredguntherson
TechGod :
That's their problem. I'll stick with Codex. At least I can finish my projects with it.
2026-06-17 10:03:58
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fabiohora
Fabio Hora :
First they give you a free sample, then they sell you cheap for a bit to get you hooked, and once you hooked the price raises, the supply and demand control starts. This is just capitalism folks.😬
2026-06-17 17:45:33
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norwegianmudhead
NorwegianMudHead :
You can definitely run a ton of the workload on local gpu (GGUF Quant e.g) already. There’s also a ton of top tier models on the market now for like 10% the price of Antrophic.
2026-06-17 10:51:06
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fullyinc0g
Offline :
It’s till squeezing customers? You can’t charge people £5 for a sandwich and then give them half a sandwich because the full sandwich would cost £8 and it’s too expensive.🤣🤣
2026-06-17 09:31:02
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pzchronicles
PZ Chronicles :
Every 20-30 minutes
2026-06-17 01:11:16
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thunderbeforelightning69
Me :
I hit my weekly usage every Monday (Wed reset). That's with using Claude as an orchestrator and kimi and codex do the build and auditing. If codex can increase their context to 500k and boost their planning, I'd stop Claude. But it's the king of the hill, for now.
2026-06-17 13:47:36
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a.dawg.though
damn :
fable 5 was already distilled... just seen it today on hugging face
2026-06-17 12:33:49
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boss_the_hugo
pug :
I completely get that 90% of usage is subsidized and for free on client side, but god damn is it nearly impossible to understand usage limits. it just says 5x 20x and so on, but 5x of what? no section lists: ok on pro plan you get this and that tokens for that and this period and each model eats this per second
2026-06-17 09:55:58
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__gadget__hunt
QuestionYourLife :
i use ponytail and my usage extended a bit more
2026-06-17 10:40:42
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hhec.protect
HHEC | CFD Protect :
You are 70% right from my POV… the future will be much cheaper not expensive, that’s why they simplify the discounted usage now and give 99% discounts on tokens per CURRENT transaction price
2026-06-17 08:06:30
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wolphje
wolph :
If I would have to pay for the tokens I use with my 20x max plan it would cost at least $5k per month, so... I'm not surprised 😅
2026-06-17 12:22:00
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netrinosph
johnjohn :
You are wrong
2026-06-17 18:44:58
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batithereviewer
BATI 🇿🇦 :
Wait So even if I start paying I will still have to wait 5 hours
2026-06-17 20:29:12
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adamluz7
Adam Luz :
I some how run 10 sessions in parallel all at the same time and I never run out and this is on the Max plan but I'm running extremely complex problems and still never run out I'm very confused about airing about this exhaustion of f****** credits
2026-06-17 05:23:57
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carbon_six
CARBON6 :
Then they can go out of business
2026-06-16 22:47:04
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monolumin.ai
MonoluminAI :
Got suede do not mean that they did it for real
2026-06-17 08:36:02
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ian872405
Ian 🇨🇦 🍁 🇨🇦 :
I can hit my limit almost same day.. it’s horrible
2026-06-17 03:53:09
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duarte.schedel
Duarte Schedel :
I don't believe it... I have the x20 plan and I absolutely have way more limits then the normal plan and the x5 plan. I use it and abuse it with ultracode effort and 1M context opus 4.8 and with dynamic workflows and only spent all tokens last week with fable. Never even moved a finger to save tokens
2026-06-16 18:16:04
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