@hexumlitee: Ontological subjectivity and ontological qujatification of sometimes non tangible things is a debatable and hot subject right now. What do we think?

Kaz :

both are objective, maybe our methods of measuring both aren’t perfect but they are definitely both high accuracy.

duffy :

Looks and intelligence are both subjective

Tiago! :

I think of it like you can be more attractive in different ways and you can be smarter in different ways

deutchreptilion :

who claims intelligence is not objective 😭

sainthamudiebalzuni :

arya :

☪️ 🕌 🫷🏳️‍⚧️🏳️‍🌈 🫸✝️⛪️ :

Always some nuance

sainthamudiebalzuni :

People will warp things to align with their copes

Richinto :

I think it is that it is DIFFICULT to objectively assess intelligence as it is a multifaceted topic. People can be “smarter” in certain areas than others, despite them having a lower IQ according to test results. The issue is the science of intelligence, we do not understand intelligence to the same extent as we do facial attractiveness. That is why, I believe, there is that discrepancy in belief of one being objective, and the other subjective respectively. Ok Richinto.

Signaling :

The same way there’s phenotypes that appeal to different people there’s different types of iq and intelligence. Do agree both can be measured

🌀 :

In the modern era, a young man's physical presentation serves as a critical, immediate form of non-verbal communication that heavily influences his social, professional, and romantic trajectory. In a fast-paced, highly visual society—amplified by digital platforms and professional networking sites—first impressions are formed in fractions of a second, making visual presentation a powerful gatekeeper of opportunity. Cultivating a polished appearance, which includes fitness, grooming, and tailored style, signals self-discipline, respect for others, and high organizational skills to potential employers and peers alike. This visual competence frequently triggers the "halo effect," a cognitive bias where attractive or well-presented individuals are unconsciously perceived as more trustworthy, competent, and socially adept. Beyond external validation, investing in one's appearance serves as a foundational pillar for internal psychological strength; the discipline required to maintain physical fitness and styling translates directly into heightened self-esteem and acute situational confidence. Ultimately, optimizing looks in the modern day is not an exercise in superficial vanity, but rather a strategic tool of self-marketing that aligns a young man's external presentation with his internal ambitions, ensuring he is taken seriously in an increasingly competitive world.

Luke :

Because they would then fall lower on the totem pole

& :

it’s just people taking on other opinions that sometimes contradict their own true beliefs

Mo 🇸🇴 :

Iq tests are usually cultural and inaccurate because of that

Arya :

iq is only one part of intelligence and it is not inherently the most important aspect and also to prescribe objectiveness to intelligence like facial aesthetics is thinking in a linear fashion which is a natural mistake when observing and falls under false equivalence

jad.tahirii :

i’m scared to take an iq test