@philosophyminis: Darwin once wrote that the reason why he couldn't believe in the Christian God was not because of the evil that humans did to each other, but because of the evil in the natural world. He couldn't believe that there was an all-loving divine hand steering a world that allowed such unthinking cruelty. Darwin's example was to look at wasps. There is a certain type of wasp which will lay its eggs in a host, such as a caterpillar, and when these eggs hatch, they will feast on the caterpillar just enough so that they do not kill the caterpillar, because a good parasite does not kill its host, because to kill the host would be to kill themselves. And so they just gorge themselves on this long-suffering caterpillar, eating it alive, but never killing it. The problem of evil is a classic problem for anyone who wants to believe in an all-loving, all-powerful God. The classic solution is to say that evil is the price we must pay for free will. We can choose, and we often choose the wrong path. But Darwin's point, the problem of natural evil, still stands. He asks why the world has been created to not only allow, but to reward such incredible suffering. Because after all, the wasp will grow up and carry on being a parasitic wasp. There is no wasp hell. And even if there were, why would we punish a wasp for doing as it was created? There are other solutions offered up, such as saying that this is a testing ground, or that this is the best of all possible worlds. But Darwin's question still stands: Why did an all-powerful, all-loving God create a world where an unseen, unknown caterpillar gets tortured to death by a parasitic wasp?
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Thursday 18 June 2026 16:24:50 GMT
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pipikakus :
it's comforting to know that kid me reached the same line of reasoning as esteemed scientist Charles Darwin. I can confidently say: same, bro
2026-06-18 17:53:40
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imbir :
This is something I’ve been thinking about for some time now, and at this point, I am contemplating the concept that evil in this world is not a thing in itself, but rather the absence of good just as cold is the absence of heat, and not a thing in itself, or darkness is the absence of light, and not a thing in itself.
2026-06-18 20:10:00
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Adams Chase🎲🎲 :
Love your content buddy 🥰
2026-06-18 19:19:01
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𝕰𝖒𝖒𝖆𝖓𝖚𝖊𝖑 ★⋆☦︎📜⚖️ :
God isn't "all loving," he is simply, love. That's shifts that argument a bit I think
2026-06-18 18:42:33
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KratosHellas :
The wasp doesn't do it out of evil. It's what it is by nature, it does the only think it knows to do in order to survive. Evil is in hurting others when you actually have many other options to support yourself.
2026-06-18 17:46:52
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davidjarvis791 :
Like the suggested reading at the end. Not seen that before but maybe I just flicked by too quick.
2026-06-18 16:50:11
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scootmcgoot :
Love your content buddy
2026-06-18 19:13:48
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Bigdest Bigyan :
just a promise actually. What to gain here that I could take it to heaven. The promise is all I have from Jesus
2026-06-18 16:33:22
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Gisele - Fern Flow English :
holy moly that's an analysis! 🤯
2026-06-18 17:32:10
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(=^ェ^=) :
Because God didn't create the wasps like that. That is how they evolved through evolution.
2026-06-18 19:15:01
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Yna :
thanks for the book recos ✨
2026-06-18 17:38:12
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SOULVERSE :
👍🏼 agreeable
2026-06-18 16:31:41
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Siaya Philosopher :
Is a world capable of producing life through evolution necessarily a world capable of producing suffering?
2026-06-18 19:43:06
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GIDEON | The Architect :
wow
2026-06-18 17:33:05
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Haze :
I feel this specific topic is more discussed today, I had no idea that Darwin wrote about it, it is the best argument for the problem of evil in my opinion
2026-06-18 19:05:21
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BigRaga☸️ :
Sometimes I feel like the caterpillar
2026-06-18 18:17:02
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KCSE English/lit Support :
Darwin's argument assumes that cruelty isn't Godly.
2026-06-18 17:13:55
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retched :
the caterpillar does not have the consciousness to realize its being tortured. evil is a stretch in this case
2026-06-18 17:09:10
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Genaro :
I can't reason with Darwin cause when you think about it he's right,yet I can't agree with him even though I haven't seen God I can't say that he doesn't exist and I know that sometimes I question he's existence but to say he doesn't existence I will never say that..why??? because if there is evil that means that there is good and the bible says that God is good cause how can you tell me that the world is evil when you don't believe that there is goodness and I think that it's better to believe that God does exist rather than saying he doesn't exist
2026-06-18 20:11:36
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IntelligentBones :
It's because the natural world generally doesn't have feelings or the capacity to perform evil.
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All of Nature works on the concept of Sacrifice, if we look at it from another perspective.
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Not Evil.
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Because to say there's evil or good in a natural world suggests these animals could think otherwise, but most of the time they cannot.
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They can display forms of emotions and all but not exactly a form of morality.
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Everything moves and evolves because it's the only way it could survive in the environment it evolved in. And those who die or become prey are just sacrifices to those it will feed.
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It's essentially a sensitive self-sustaining ecosystem, and it's not like Humans have tried intervening with the ecosystem.
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At one point they killed whales in hopes of increasing the krill population, just for it to drop severely because whales actually provided them rich nutrients that krills live off of and populate with.
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Darwin couldn't see this because the current Evolutionary system that we know of today didn't take into consideration how these creatures return what they've taken eventually back into nature, and we only came to know about it after learning more about nature itself, not just how it came to be.
2026-06-18 18:02:14
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Leiy_rae :
eating the fruit was the problem, knowledge, free will and many other things come with consequences, humans just like the idea of these things but never the consequences
2026-06-18 16:36:29
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persona_non_grata :
because animals are subordinates and a chance for people to show their love towards the littlest ones and find a way to change wasps habits and save both a caterpillar and a wasp.
2026-06-18 17:43:02
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glutenfree.cocaina :
How can there be ‘free will’ and a wrong path at the same time? Seriously
2026-06-18 19:00:15
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G^2 :
So how does he base what “evil “ is ? If no God exists
2026-06-18 17:55:29
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fvahnqroxt :
there are no tragedies in nature
2026-06-18 17:25:38
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