@vince.quant: When should you sell a stock that's still going up? Most people lean on price targets, sell at +20%, trail a stop, bail when a chart pattern breaks. In 2010 Dai, Zhang and Zhu took the question apart with actual math instead. They modeled the market as flipping between a hidden bull regime and a hidden bear regime. You never get to see which one you're in, so the variable that matters becomes the probability that the bull is still alive given everything the price has done so far. What they proved is that the optimal rule never looks at the price level at all. You hold while that probability sits above a critical threshold, and you sell once it drops below. The right moment to exit is when the trend stops giving you enough evidence that the bull is still running, which can happen while the price is still near its high. Worth being honest about the limits. The proof lives inside a specific model, two regimes, fixed parameters, estimated probabilities, a transaction cost, assumptions about how prices move. Real markets break those assumptions, and pinning down the true regime live is genuinely hard. It still hits hard because it swaps an arbitrary round number for something deeper, a measure of trend strength you can actually derive. There's no magic price to wait for, you sell once the trend stops proving itself. Source: Dai, Zhang & Zhu (2010), Trend Following Trading under a Regime Switching Model, SIAM J. Financial Math 1(1), 780-810. https://doi.org/10.1137/090770552 #finance #quantfinance #trading #investing #stocks
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Jennie :
Zhang always having a research paper
2026-06-19 02:57:53
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Ben Balach :
You shouldn't sell a stock. What are you going to do with the money?
2026-06-18 21:48:18
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pffuu0 :
Analyse 3 stocks of the same nature and sub-nature (exemple, 3 of AI nature but subnature is memory).
If the 3 fall 3% means shit is going well down and you sell it, if it is only one it is not the market but only one stock is going down.
For that stock you have to read the news about its company fast and decide, sometimes enterprises have bad deals.
2026-06-19 05:36:54
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Pontic_Child :
man idk if markov is THAT powerful
2026-06-18 21:26:35
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jondoe :
commenting to implement in Python
2026-06-19 00:24:23
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Saffat :
Just tell me to bet on puts or calls mr big words man
2026-06-19 04:21:01
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Luke :
Et Zhang?
2026-06-19 02:54:07
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SonOfMan :
So MVRV?
2026-06-18 22:44:02
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Benjamin You :
what's the algorithm to calculate p(bull)?
2026-06-19 01:50:30
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Denny T :
This is great, thanks
2026-06-18 19:15:02
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NotLikaimi :
Basically trend following
2026-06-18 21:01:27
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Carlos Rendon :
so then what's P(Bull) ?
2026-06-18 22:28:57
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anotherfk8 :
Just use VWAP/MA and scale it up or down
2026-06-18 22:13:29
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Fishats :
just use the fib + multiple legs
2026-06-19 00:11:28
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WisemxnNQ† :
basically a tremdline break
2026-06-19 06:06:54
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stalemate :
so spcx when
2026-06-19 07:02:35
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︎ :
Isn’t this just standard deviation
2026-06-19 01:36:29
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Christopher Ho :
what is the indicator for this threshold line ?
2026-06-19 01:02:37
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Larry :
This is interesting. Thanks for the inspiration!
2026-06-18 19:56:26
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ImAlfredBorden :
J’ai un peu regardé, les calculs sont terrifiants, ce n’est même pas un tool utilisable
2026-06-18 23:33:18
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jontycollins :
how do normies work this out? asking for a friend
2026-06-19 03:17:49
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