@zonedoutplanner: A 2022 YouGov poll found that 62% of Americans believe high-density neighborhoods produce more crime, a belief held even among many city residents. But the data doesn’t back it up. Dense cities like New York and Tokyo consistently post lower crime rates than plenty of sprawling, low-density suburbs. What actually predicts crime is poverty, disinvestment, and lack of opportunity, not proximity to your neighbors. Zoning laws that isolated poor communities from jobs, transit, and reinvestment did far more to create crime than density ever did. The buildings aren’t the problem. The policy that cut people off from opportunity is.
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Saturday 04 July 2026 22:26:25 GMT
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jordanbarrett285 :
you forgot 1 other pretty important factor....
2026-07-05 05:01:09
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freakshow8 :
Wrong.
2026-07-05 00:39:15
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trump2028 :
New York doesn’t have a low crime rate
2026-07-05 19:49:17
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don't_be_a_nagger :
Then why is west Virginia one of the safest states? It falls right in the middle of states as far as population density but yet one of the poorest. Also is one of the whitest
2026-07-05 14:38:01
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Brady M :
Per capita is so important. Crime rate per sq mi or per city doesn't really have any significance and just creates bias against big cities even when the average person is very safe
2026-07-05 06:57:39
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happyhappy :
ummmmm 🤔 actually there IS another factor to consider....
2026-07-05 15:11:33
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buckeyefr :
“New York has a low crime rate” this is so false 😭😭
2026-07-04 22:33:46
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ROTN :
Hey is there maybe a much closer correlated stat than poverty
2026-07-05 03:44:04
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bulbasaur12121212 :
this whole post comes from an alternate reality
2026-07-05 02:46:38
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✂️ :
as someone who has lived in rural America, Chicago, suburbs, small city. crime is everywhere.
2026-07-05 14:50:58
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Thor2074 :
Cities are gross to live in too crowded and too expensive for no practical reason. Suburbs and rural areas have so much better to offer.
2026-07-05 04:22:54
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GhostGamer 678 :
been saying this for years
2026-07-04 23:00:53
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anynamewilldo :
With almost 30,000 people PER SQUARE MILE in NY, it’s an apples to oranges comparison for violence. They physically don’t have the space to all be violent simultaneously, so it’s an unfair comparison. This is true with most city/country comparisons btw so it applies to more than just NY
2026-07-05 12:12:22
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zephyr7521 :
“Plenty of” doesn’t mean “Less than the majority” just because you can find examples of smaller cities with higher crime doesn’t mean that population density leads to more crime. That’s using the exception to disprove the rule, which isn’t how data works. The data shows that population density leads to crime because population density leads to resource scarcity, and resource scarcity leads to poverty, and poverty leads to crime.
2026-07-05 16:56:42
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Curtis Orlosky :
True… But it’s kinda hard to hate thy neighbor if you can’t even see thy neighbor. Js 🤠
2026-07-05 02:18:19
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mailbox930 :
The lack of money is the root of all evil.
2026-07-05 04:27:58
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Severen_ :
I can tell you a larger percentage of Americans that have a different idea of what causes crime
2026-07-05 14:53:21
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Wannabegolfing :
No one has ever said it’s the close buildings 🤣
2026-07-05 11:57:38
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Historian of 47 :
You are kind of correct. Statistically, My wife’s home town has a higher violent crime rate than Chicago….even though they haven’t had a shooting since Clyde barrows drove through town. So the question becomes…does density have any effect on crime? Does density have any effect on poverty? Simple fact is, Chicago, NY and LA have some of the richest people in the world, and yet have far more crimes. The cities should redistribute the wealth of the wealthy liberals who want to live there.
2026-07-05 05:13:08
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Avery Ecklein :
it proven wrong in India and China.
2026-07-05 18:50:30
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snook57 :
Well you are comparing apples to oranges. The social norms in Japanese society are very different.
2026-07-05 13:41:34
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