@catholiclayman1: The Islamic Dilemma Explained #catholic #philosophy #theology #islam #muslim

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First. We believe there are some parts in bible true. while others false corrupted. Second. Christian bibles are written by humans. It doesn’t get simpler than that so saying “hold on chiritian bible existed before” while they argued which was true. (Revaluation 3:9-2:9 judizers super apostles mostly Pauline faction won). BONUS BONUS as i explained why your points weren’t that good and wasn’t that dilemma mostly misunderstanding. I’ll give you Christian dilemma Matt 24:34 basically iIt’s either. Jesus was wrong and false (atheist). Or they wrote Jesus wrong (Muslim). None of paths are saying bible is truth also don’t use classical apologist argument as they’re always one of the worst to be respectful such as. “Oh he meant race”. Genea vs genos. “He meant partial” text next to it. “He meant future not now” this (houtos) vs that (ekeinls). “It’s poetry they understood it differently” Dead Sea scrolls were one of most apocalyptic hinting it wasn’t poetry and we just don’t understand many of apologist arguments are sh1 sooo that’s the thing. Which makes us back into. Jesus was wrong and false (atheist). Or they wrote Jesus wrong (Muslim). None of paths are saying bible is truth.

tiktak1 :

the trinity is a concept created after Jesus death by humans

Zkrj18 :

i can eaisly debunk this, but i dont think you want to debate

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The very next verse (5:48) clears this up by stating the Quran is a guardian and criterion (Muhaymin) over previous scriptures. Verse 47 tells them to judge by “what Allah revealed in it” meaning the original truth revealed by Allah and not later human alterations. The Quran remains the final authority

Al-Āthāri🏴🏳️🇵🇸 :

Because we also believe the TRUE bible was never truly conserves(as history shows), and that the bible got curropted and modified

perfectxxion :

because the gospel you believe in (written years after Jesus by anonymous authors) is not the actual one revealed to Jesus

Aram☀️ :

Because

IkiabTsPmo :

im atheist but its so dumb how they argue that some parta are corrupted but some arent so anything that is true in the bible (like a prediction that came true) they can claim it only proves islam since the islam says some parts stayed the same but if something in the bible is wrong its not related to them so they win either way

emmnuel67 :

What are the best books to read in your opinion ?

K0_h1t :

what I was taught was that the disiples corrupted it that’s why it has different versions and we believe that they changed Jesus original version

jeheushensu6666627 :

off topoc but nice editing style bro

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Syno :

2 scrolls ago, I found someone making the same point and he got debunked

Rick :

Why did bro ignore my comment in a past video

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BornagainViolinist✝️🎻 :

loinkaboink :

could it be possible that islam becomes a denomination of Christianity? therefore making both true?

Art_u :

Actually we believe that PARTS of the bible were corrupted. Don't your old testament of the bible teach not to eat pork? And if you say that old testament doesn't count, why there are 14 verses of mark missing in the new testament?

lebronsocool :

i got an alert by the government while watching this 😭

Whooperboi :

Im just gonna go off of my knowledge, feel free to rebuke any points i make, we can continue a debate like this, sure. With the two verses you gave off Surah Ma’idah, its context is based off of the early Muslim tribes, Christians and Jews. So the Ayah verses are not telling the Muslims to look at the gospels and learn from them, it’s saying that to the Jews and Christians. Then, even with the pre dated scriptures you gave talking about the trinity before the Qur’an was properly compiled into a book, the Prophet Muhammad PBUH was born over 500 years after Jesus and I’d say thats enough time for a book to be changed, not to mention the concept of the trinity was established properly in the council of Constantinople, about 300 years after Christians believe Jesus was crucified. So with the verses, it’s not addressing Muslims to look at it, and with the trinity and believing Jesus is God, we don’t believe those came with the original Gospels and were later added.

mrrwhoo :

Amen, but honestly we shouldn’t be Protestants Catholics or Orthodox christians overall but follow Jesus overall. God bless and guide you all, including your loved ones. ✝️🙏.

skibidi cat :

Nope Want a full exponition

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