@lutheran.larper: why did God allow Adam and Eve to sin? #jesus #god

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julian_00000000
Julian :
Problem with your first objection is that the teacher doesn’t have the definitive power of making him pass
2026-07-25 19:13:05
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capybaraaaaaaaasssss
𐔌՞. .՞𐦯 イ・へ・マ :
I might convert to Christianity
2026-07-10 14:58:40
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great4nate4
great4nate4 :
The idea of obedience is something humans understand, and if god created that then he could’ve made a world we’re obidience doesn’t mean not disobedience
2026-07-25 10:26:56
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el_twido7
EL_TWIDO7 :
what's the meaning of obedience if disobedience is not a choice
2026-07-10 21:19:49
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ggrac3.m
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Amennn I love this so much
2026-07-24 19:17:00
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itz.loki_ff
Løki :
exactly.. because God gave us freewill because if He didn't, it would be like we live in an automation
2026-07-25 14:13:54
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anndrew999
andrew⁹₉⁹ :
Free will
2026-07-10 03:37:31
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damn.its_w.a.m.s.y
Sasha💋 :
problem is God is all loving, all powerful, and all knowing 🤣🤣🤣
2026-07-25 11:48:09
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siney038
デフトーンズ :
If we were all living perfectly there would be almost 0 point of a heaven other then life after death
2026-07-10 01:11:20
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rare4christ
Rare✝️ :
for His Glory
2026-07-10 01:28:24
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mrs.kenzotenma
𓊆ྀི❤︎sho𓊇ྀི :
In short, God wanted to give us the free will and the chance to love him, even though he knew we'd mess up, because he loves us so much
2026-07-11 16:14:30
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cadenka8008
ᚲᚨᛑᛖᚾ :
if god is all knowing we dont have free will
2026-07-12 00:39:40
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k_zlx0
𝑲𝒂𝒚𒉭 :
This analogy is so flawed on another level
2026-07-11 20:58:03
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tomoslav_777
Mr.yapallot :
if God is creator of EVERYTHING then hes the creator of everyones fate you say that knowing something will happen is a lot diffrent than causing something to happen, and yes its not the teachers fault that the student failed tho your analogy is completely wrong first of all the teacher isnt an all powerful and all knowing being also if we wanted to ignore that then the analogy is still flawed a better analogy would be the teacher handed the test to a student , the student is writing the test well but then a random comes into the class yelling and screaming but the teacher doesnt stop him , so now the student can't concentrate therefore failing the test , funny thing is that the teacher knew the interuption would come and it would cause the student to fail yet he did nothing about it
2026-07-11 20:20:40
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derlangstekommentar
Toast :
Gods test was flawed. The outcome was already set. And i dont mean that god knew it but bc of the test itself. Think about it what are the options. 1) They dont eat from the tree and another day goes by without anything happening. 2) They eat from the tree and they get kicked out. Remember they are immortal. So whats gonna happen is that maybe they dont eat it in the first 1000 years maybe not even in the first trillion years but the day will come somewhere between day 0-infinity where eventually they gonna eat the fruit.
2026-07-12 09:26:37
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imjustjosh57
imjustjosh :
God knew but still gave them a chance
2026-07-20 08:15:25
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yandiel._
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Youre right that foreknowledge alone isnt causation If a human knows something bad will happen but cant stop it theyre not responsible for it But thats not the claim being made about God God is supposed to be omniscient omnipotent and perfectly good That means He not only knows what will happen He has the power to prevent it and chooses whether to allow it So the issue isnt that God knew Adam and Eve would eat the fruit its that He knowingly created and sustained the exact circumstances in which it would happen despite having the power to do otherwise Thats a question about moral responsibility not mere foreknowledge
2026-07-10 15:44:18
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boymackboyz
boymackboyz :
If God created us and Crafted our every fibre and he is omniscient. Could you argue that when God made Adam and Eve he created them to eat the apple as he knew their future as he created their every fibre of being.
2026-07-12 00:16:17
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user6sm8zxphk1
lupin :
the rest of the vid is fine but the teacher analogy is horrible
2026-07-13 22:55:30
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sgubhu766
Sgubhu :
excellent analogy
2026-07-10 21:17:53
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nee.account0
new account :
So calm yet so right
2026-07-11 02:24:23
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plk55621
plk55621 :
The teacher analogy does not work and here’s why. Probability from gods point of view does not exist. What happens is the only thing that could have happened. Now it doesn’t matter how sure the teacher is that the class clown will fail, because even if he does so, the teacher could not have with absolute 100% certainty knew that he’d fail. Secondly, the class clown is apart of a class, who are all also taking the test. Adam and Eve were the only ones who had the choice to sin or not. Teachers expect failure, but also expect students to pass. The class clown is not the teachers only focus, as other students who will pass also take the test. On top of this, if all students did fail, the teacher is to blame. God could not expect Adam and Eve to not sin because he with absolute certainty knew that they would, yet he still put these circumstances upon them
2026-07-10 05:07:55
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