@woodeater.tar.xz: #chatcontrol #linuxserver #securemessaging #stopchatcontrol #cybersecuritytutorial @Benjamin Netanyahu - נתניהו . Warning Ai generated text here: The main things you gain from hosting your own XMPP + OMEMO server are control, independence, and ownership. But there are trade-offs. What you gain 1. Your own messaging infrastructure * You control the server, accounts, and policies. * You are not dependent on Signal, WhatsApp, Telegram, or another company’s decisions. * You can create addresses like: * [email protected] * [email protected] 2. Decentralization * You can communicate with other XMPP users on other servers (if federation is enabled). * No single company controls the whole network. * Similar idea to email: Gmail users can email Proton users, etc. 3. Privacy from the service provider With OMEMO: * The server cannot read message contents. * A server operator (even you, if you host for others) only sees encrypted data and metadata. 4. Control over data retention You decide: * How long messages are stored * Whether backups exist * Who can create accounts * Whether logs are kept 5. Customization You can add: * Your own domain * Your own branding * Internal-only chat * Bots * Integrations * Automated accounts 6. A long-term open standard XMPP has existed for decades. You are not locked into one app: * Switch clients * Switch servers * Keep the same protocol ⸻ What you do not gain ❌ More privacy than Signal by default Signal already provides excellent end-to-end encryption. Running XMPP doesn’t magically make messages more private. ❌ A better user experience Signal is usually: * Easier to install * Better for non-technical users * More polished ❌ Anonymity Your server can still reveal metadata: * Who has an account * When people connect * Who communicates with whom (depending on configuration) ⸻ A simple analogy * Signal: You live in a secure apartment building managed by someone else. The locks are excellent, but you don’t own the building. * XMPP + OMEMO: You own the building. You choose the rules and maintenance—but you also have to maintain it. For one person, the benefit is mostly learning, control, and independence. For a family, community, company, or privacy-focused group, it can make much more sense.
Zangi is a great and most safe chat app i think, am i wrong?
2026-07-11 14:10:50
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Jānis Dirslauzis :
what about just using matrix?
2026-07-11 10:52:39
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:
i use matrix with synapse
2026-07-12 10:19:16
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M :
Xmpp by default leaks a lot of data, to properly use xmpp heavy configing is required. There were toms of cves surrounding xmpp
2026-07-12 05:28:40
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[covix@nixos~:]$ :
finally sm1 who doesn't trust signal, goated vid btw
2026-07-10 16:58:45
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user3986617097 :
good thing i have no friends, i dont even need a messenger
2026-07-11 01:24:57
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𝐌 𝐀 𝐓 𝐓 𝐄 𝐎 🎋 :
windows 11 pro better with whatsapp
2026-07-12 08:19:59
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Archidon :
not everyone can get a domain and a server
2026-07-10 18:12:27
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🅂ilend :
You know that the chat control happens at device/local level right? They intercept and check the messages before it even goes out, that’s why E2EE also doesn’t work
2026-07-11 04:23:51
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ᛉAlexᛉ :
signal is enough
2026-07-10 19:10:28
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KYOKO FROM PEAKTALES 100%REAL :
can i use a subdomain for this?
2026-07-11 09:52:15
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ⵣ🌲𝗞𝗮𝘄𝗮𝘇𝗮𝗸𝗶🌲ꑭ :
what about SimpleX
2026-07-10 21:04:18
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ton :
secure messaging and uses tiktok
2026-07-10 18:54:54
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Pinuaple :
briar or session what
2026-07-11 12:06:15
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No one :
or use radio, like LoRa with meshtastic
2026-07-10 20:08:25
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poper_time :
or a Minecraft server and redstone monitors (kind of more practical for everyone)
2026-07-11 09:57:35
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Nikolai :
simplexchat is a better protocol
2026-07-11 10:53:54
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lain iwakura number 1 fan :
atp we probably would need radio or satellite messaging
2026-07-10 15:30:52
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𝙇𝙞𝙗𝙚𝙧𝙩𝙖 :
It costs money or no ?
2026-07-10 18:29:33
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Molly :
Whats the problem with signal if everything is encrypted? All they have is just encrypted data
2026-07-12 00:47:57
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Andrew :
isn't a matrix server more than enough for now?
2026-07-10 21:52:15
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kmxur :
I hate signal bro idk why people glaze it so much
2026-07-10 20:39:49
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