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121falvphdv :
But I bet you have no problem believing everything about Alexander the Great who came 400 years before Jesus right? Funny how that goes...
2026-07-12 05:09:56
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BOSH4NK :
On point Ben. Great job 👊
2026-07-12 17:42:26
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Robert jordinellii :
There is no " Real Historical Jesus ".
2026-07-18 09:38:48
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bitspektr :
I got my slide in the NT when I heard about this critical text argument.
2026-07-12 06:20:27
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Arhplanet (Arne) :
who?
2026-07-12 04:51:34
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121falvphdv :
Jesus’ words are corroborated through historical methodology, ancient texts, and manuscript evidence. Because no direct audio recordings or outside transcripts exist, scholars analyze consistency across the four Gospels (the multi-attestation principle) and compare these quotes with extra-biblical historians (like Josephus and Tacitus) who confirm Jesus' teachings spawned early, dedicated movements. Scholars use several specific avenues to verify the authenticity and historical reliability of Jesus' words. The New Testament boasts unmatched manuscript support, with over 5,000 Greek manuscripts. Fragment \(\mathfrak{P}^{52}\) (a scrap of the Gospel of John) dates to around AD 125, exceptionally close to the original writing. Ancient non-Christian historians—such as the Roman historian Tacitus and Jewish historian Flavius Josephus—verify the timeline, Jesus' crucifixion under Pontius Pilate, and the immediate explosion of the Christian movement. Scholars consider statements authentic if they go against the grain of the early Christian church or Jewish traditions. If a quote lacks an obvious motive for the early church to invent it, historians view it as highly authentic. The Gospels contain untranslated Aramaic phrases spoken by Jesus, such as "Abba" (Mark 14:36) or "Talitha cumi" (Mark 5:41). Preserving these native words indicates the oral traditions are rooted in actual history rather than purely translated myths.Cross-Gospel Consistency (Multiple Attestation): When a saying (such as the Great Commandment or the concept of the "Kingdom of God") appears in multiple independent early sources, scholars agree it traces back to the historical Jesus.
2026-07-12 05:07:58
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p :
Where does Bart say that the gospels are independent witnesses of the historical Jesus? Everything I’ve seen him say suggests the opposite.
2026-07-12 10:53:36
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who are you :
Hmm and yet we can go back to 2nd 3 Rd and 4th manuscripts and see the similarities they have but the CONTEXT stays the same. Good try again
2026-07-13 01:26:44
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Connor Blackwell :
You mean how the Bible was designed in the first place?
2026-07-12 14:25:55
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Joeamerican :
it's all made up dude The whole book is a fiction
2026-07-27 15:20:24
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Jørgen :
🥰🥰🥰
2026-07-17 20:29:59
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John Lagado :
Their most powerful weapon is the Criterion of Embarrassment but frankly the entire exercise is embarrassing.
2026-07-12 07:55:09
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RudyLDN :
What "real Jesus". 🤔 It has been stated that most likely during those times there might have been a dude called Jesus who might have been sort of a rebel. Nowhere has it been proven that this lad had anything religious to say or that he actually did any miracles.
2026-07-12 16:17:49
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Jolau1701 :
Reminds me of how my dad would tell me what my grandmother (his mother) wanted. I couldn't speak Chinese and she couldn't speak English, so he would say things like she wanted me to diet and exercise, and didn't want me spending my inheritance from her. But for all I know, he's saying what he wants putting words in her mouth while all she wanted was for me to eat her pork chops and be a happy kid.
2026-07-13 21:06:05
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SGT AL :
You have to remember evangelicals pick and choose what part of the bible they want to believe and that the only thing that they love more than blonde hair, blue eye, white Jesus is hypocrisy.
2026-07-12 16:24:30
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