@earvortex: Now a bit of some ethnomusicology self-critique #africanmusic #ethnomusicology #worldmusic #drumming #musictheory

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jazznotations
jazznotations :
antiBlackness is everywhere =\
2026-07-29 02:38:02
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mysphonia_dystopia
Themustacheman :
there are two African tribes who create the most complex poly rhythms known to man and have no word for rhythm. they believe it to be an extention of themselves. I always found this beautiful wonderful & complex. a direct expression of music. the diversity & differences in how we aprouch harmony is wonderful
2026-07-22 18:38:56
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f_c_r_
Francis :
I agree with everything you say here except that I'm suspicious you might not be completely right about ethnomusicology history "unintentionally" creating an exotic other. I'm not gonna write the paper but I'd be willing to bet there's strong evidence that a lot of the othering is very much intentional
2026-07-22 15:29:07
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asmodessa
asmodessa :
The Invention of African Rhythm NEEDS to be required reading in more places
2026-07-22 15:29:04
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huntcade
Huntcade :
Would really love to hear some illustrative examples
2026-07-22 18:39:53
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generation.ohhh
Generation.Ohhh. :
Mind you…. Black Americans have defined harmonic structure in choral musical/all recorded music in the U.S especially through gospel music…. It’s just as much at the root of harmony in the U.S. as European chordal structure
2026-07-23 16:33:35
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mymusicgenesis
RobertMMG :
Western Classical music education even sacrifices Beethoven and Chopin at the altar of Assumed Impossibility. Modern performance practice over expression, creativity, and understanding. The colonialism is the point at this point.
2026-07-22 15:16:27
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toad_less_raveled
Toad Less Raveled :
Adam Neely has a video essay over on YouTube about classical music and white supremacy that might interest you if you haven't seen it already.
2026-07-22 19:46:08
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lindetronablequidetrone
evilstem :
mind u the kora exists
2026-07-23 21:39:04
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neptuneinpisces
amy (derogatory) :
Every time I see you on my fyp you always have something genuinely interesting to say. Love your content.
2026-07-22 17:09:29
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laprojectorswarm
Los Angeles Projector Swarm :
Trying to bridge the connection
2026-07-22 19:01:28
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matureformyage
hiii :
Love ur stuff Ty for sharing
2026-07-22 15:49:16
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eugeniopezone123
Eugenio Pezone :
I need a degree in music
2026-07-24 08:58:00
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jaddelj
Jade :
you are my favorite account in here and dare i say the most interesting on this app, amei
2026-07-22 15:12:35
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changoprimero
changoprimero :
Thank you. I needed that.
2026-07-22 16:55:36
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thebmxkid65
Harley White Jr :
Duke would agree
2026-07-22 21:48:22
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lil20stu
Azzie🪶 :
Thank you for this
2026-07-22 18:17:38
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albeauti504
Wishing Wellness NOLA :
I totally get this argument and believe there is a lot of difficulty and intelligence in understanding drum tones as well as the pitch and tone of other African instruments
2026-07-22 17:24:55
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palebluedot446
palebluedot :
boost
2026-07-23 15:31:54
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hip_check
hip_check :
People who can't throw ass to Beethoven are boring to me.
2026-07-22 17:57:45
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auwumn58
Awumn :
It wasn’t unintentional. It’s the same with architecture and how we dismiss it as ‘primitive’ instead of ingenious designs that developed over centuries of cumulative knowledge. They ‘other’ it on purpose.
2026-07-22 15:29:24
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jaded_dlc
Jaded DLC :
my problem is when people want to talk about african melodies they only ever bring up instruments that can only exist after the western colonization of african music, after the greek doscoveries were brought through the middle eastern to african to asian instrumentations. im not one to say they didnt have tonality, but the focus is so heavily on the rhythmic devices/call and response tradition that african music uses bc thats the most universally applicable aspect of african music in modern western music. and for western musicologists it is other or exotic in a sence. bc obviously its not part of their own cultural tradition or academic framework. schools have done a ton to implement foreign music into common general music curriculum, but theres only so much time to teach music and music is an infinite rabbit hole, so yes european/americanized theory is standard for the cultures they represent bc that is the framework of the music they are most likely to listen to. our ears are trained from a young age to like the tonalities of western music, to hear those intervals and relate, its not as if music educators in the modern day avoid music outside of their culture. like of course music from another culture with a different framework of tonality and theory is exotic to the ear, it is different, not lesser, but they don't function the same. music is an amalgamation, a total sum of its parts and all the music an artist has heard prior, but that doesnt mean all the parts are inherently the same or contributed as equally to the music of your personal culture
2026-07-23 02:12:45
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