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fadedcons :
You don’t need to backtest a strategy for 15 years to know if you have an edge or not, for retail trading, 3 months of forward tested data on a live account is enough
2026-07-30 11:46:48
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SenZoukria.Mnq :
But love your argument so much that’s why I love quant
2026-07-30 21:21:38
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100xmontana :
“Pure luck” explain this level of precision
2026-07-31 23:26:23
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SpeculatorSeth :
There are many studies showing alpha derived from order flow data. Such trades are probably too fast for discretionary retail traders to pocket, but you didn't want to trade against them. That can be a foundation to add other edges to like an informational advantage.
2026-07-30 22:45:27
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far3llcc :
Well i mean kinda right, kinda nonsense
2026-07-31 07:57:55
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Macro Trench :
Nah orderflow can generate little alpha
2026-07-31 01:15:47
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🪿 :
How can you explain results like this? (Not mine but from ict) this isn’t luck and even if it was propfirm leverage is insane and people take multiple payouts per month you think literal firms exist trading candlestick patterns but orderflow doesn’t work? 😂
2026-07-28 16:41:11
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9milly :
Same talk no solution welcome to the trading space
2026-07-28 02:42:21
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Rickky-™ :
An ICT strategy can work like how ALL other strategies work. If you say ICT is crap then your just a hypocrite Since to get An edge in the market you need to find patterns according to your ICT strategy thats has a good profit factor and and you’ll be profitable and this goes the same for your strategy too since you find patterns and enter trade based on the strategy. You cant predict were leaves fly to without feeling the wind. This goes to the market
2026-07-28 09:38:01
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Kaiyro :
Ur right but ur forgettin trading is a huge scaleable buisness so literally one payout copy traded across 10 accounts sets you up for the entire year and it’s repeatable
2026-07-27 17:47:50
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thomas.totown :
But then how can you call it luck when some people have multiple payouts? Just having one 10k payout is 0.67% chance of happening (based on your stats) so for one person to have multiple 10k payouts it seems a bit too lucky to just be gambling or luck no?
2026-07-27 19:02:56
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slept :
solution please?
2026-07-28 05:23:09
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N :
Nc+s
2026-07-28 12:31:48
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Dontneedausername :
Not true sorry man I get where your coming from but just not the truth
2026-07-27 21:10:47
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zarex :
so throw orderflow away or nah😭
2026-07-27 13:33:27
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pálinka :
day trading is mostly chances yeah, but if you make trades with high RR, your win rate can be 30%, and still be profitable, also, there are companies who manipulate the markets, people who alredy have the news before it becomes open to the public, those are the only ones who really have an edge, us small day traders should really just focus on 1-2 payouts and go for longterm investing, (talking abt yrs), that might be the only type of trading where you can actually have an edge
2026-07-27 20:14:38
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SenZoukria.Mnq :
Order flow is an execution model. For retail traders, it's mainly useful for execution, key levels, and confirming bias. On its own, execution isn't optimal enough to consistently generate an edge, which is why I combine Hurst cycle analysis and mean reversion with execution tools like absorption. Also, in futures, the market structure is different. You have a centralized order book, MBO data, and tighter spreads, which makes order flow much more reliable than in many other markets. Can you make money using order flow alone? Yes, it's definitely possible, and some traders do get funded or achieve payouts using only order flow. But it's generally much harder than using it alongside another statistical or structural edge. For scalping, order flow alone can work well because execution is the main source of edge. But for intraday or day trading, relying only on order flow often becomes overly complex. You still need to define your higher-timeframe zones and maintain a clear daily or intraday bias. So you're about 80% right. It's very difficult for a retail trader to achieve a sustainable edge with a Sharpe ratio around 1 using only order flow. That's why I believe order flow should be combined with another framework rather than used as a standalone strategy.
2026-07-30 21:19:37
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sd_g47 :
I dont understand this Bro what Are You Trying to say this Makes No Sense
2026-07-28 12:49:19
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. :
How can I learn ur model
2026-07-27 19:55:20
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Kuba :
That’s true, but I think any strategy can work if you execute it well. The question is for how long..
2026-07-28 10:30:53
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bogdan :
whats your opinion on koletrades strat continuation and discretion
2026-07-27 17:53:18
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_louloui.21 :
But this doesn’t mean trading doesn’t work, imo swing trading is the best no chance to beat it and also using fundamentals to predict forex pairs is one of the „strategy’s“ I made the most money off, Quants also good
2026-07-29 23:19:39
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Yasoo.s5 :
So guys like Powell and patty?
2026-07-28 01:16:30
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༄ :
what about crt and msnr
2026-07-28 18:30:29
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