@travis.woo.trades: Three years trading prop firms with no payout is not proof that you need more discipline. It may mean the strategy has a negative edge. Most discretionary traders perform worse than random because human psychology works against them. They take quick profits because winning feels good. Then they hold losses too long because admitting they were wrong feels painful. Small winners. Massive losers. That is the opposite of how many successful trend-following systems operate: controlled losses, clear exits, and room for winners to run. But there may also be a deeper question. Ed Seykota said: **“Everybody gets what they want from the market.”** Are you truly trading to make money? Or are you chasing excitement, sympathy, identity, and another dramatic comeback story? Stop blaming discipline. Test the strategy. Study the incentives. Examine your real motivation. #propfirms #tradingpsychology #riskmanagement #systematictrading #mindset