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yourunwashedpoosayhair
🦟🦗🦟 :
In the Bible when God spoke to Moses in the burning bush he said "I am that I am" implying he always was and always will be. Yet they can't apply that to the universe? That maybe it wasn't created, it always just was. They say that's impossible
2026-08-31 17:47:29
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dehancw
yourfav_curlyhead🕷️🇱🇰 :
No matter what,ppl will never question their religion bcz they will think it's a sin therefore ppl will continue to rely on a book which has no evidence
2026-08-08 06:29:09
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john.eisin.boy
sheesh :
This literally just can be countered by just saying that God is Outside of the universes laws therefore it is not linear and will act as a dynamic force which exist outside time itself making it existing past present future becoming the Son and also the Father because if someone like God is real and exists like this then he doesn't need a father because he is the Father and he doesn't need a son because he's already the Son see how that works in this universe there's always a cause yes but religion or bible says that A God exists outside or beyond universe itself And that's it it's really easy to understand that shii it's just that allat of people are so close minded I don't believe in religions though it's just business but I partially believe in God but we will eventually know the truth but this is just an idea it's also backed up by science you can literally search about this using Google btw it's science gng
2026-08-04 13:28:32
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acehiillnrry
Logic. :
It's because of "EXCEPTION". Believing God exist or believing God doesn't exist is just making an exception. Well simply because, when you think deeply about the roots.... Both are "step 1". For believers or believing God caused of all.... thr exception is that, God no need for creator bcs he is the start point and bcs, God is God...., for non believers, or believing that universe is just, bigbang theory, and no caused, the exception is opposite of "cause". Which is state that, universe is just, no creator, jist universe, no spawn, just exist. But the thing is, even in bigbang theory, the primeval atom or the sungularity is still unknown, whether it exist from something or nothing? or it came from nothing or something?, that question will never be answer on science, same goes to God.... which is how or what exactly God is. The exception of both is that because they are "step 1", both are trying to answer the "mystery" of universe. There exception is...... just claim, with no specifically evidence or proof on the very roots of their purpose. Exception.
2026-08-07 16:51:29
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adam.labiad3
Adammm💫 :
Maybe god doesn’t need a creator because he’s outside time and space?
2026-08-05 21:14:33
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flosdenox
𝐸𝑑𝑒𝑛 :
There is strong evidence that something has always existed, even before the Big Bang. There is evidence supporting the ideas of infinite cycle and the multiverse. But even if we assume the universe began with the Big Bang, from absolute nothing, with no multiverse or anything beyond it, that still does not prove a god. Time and space are internal to the universe; asking what happened "before" its beginning is illogical. However, I hold firmly that something has always existed, and will always exist, in some form. My central point in this argument is that people readily accept that God can be uncreated, yet refuse to extend the same logic to the universe. They shift the burden of existence onto God because it is easier, and because it allows them to avoid critical thinking. I believe the universe was not created, and this is grounded in what is observable. That is far more reasonable than believing in something as unconvincing as the existence of dragons. I apply Occam's razor: the simplest explanation is the best one. There is no convincing reason to believe our universe was created, especially if it has existed forever in some form. I believe the universe is intelligent in the sense that its laws of physics are remarkably precise and self-consistent, not in the sense that a single conscious entity controls everything, and certainly not in the traditional theistic sense. The universe itself is the energy.
2026-08-04 08:39:05
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keithmcnair4
keithmcnair4 :
It really is not plausible that the universe did not have a beginning therefore, it is very unlikely that it is eternal
2026-08-10 14:34:57
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ali32199999
Sir :
there are too many arguments for God besides the cosmological
2026-08-08 19:34:35
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a.butter29
A.butter29 :
You made a huge error on the 3rd slide
2026-08-08 10:26:18
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rafo6k
🛡️🪩🏃🔜Give_us sbr.Netflix :
The prophet Muhammad SwS said that: sheytan will ask u what’s the creator of many things such as animals and objects after u response at all his questions he will ask u, who is the creator of الله? At this moment immediately search refuge from الله and ignore sheytan/ we humans are to weak for this level it’s like telling at a new born to resolve a chain of complexe math equations
2026-08-04 09:44:06
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dado145678
Dado ☦︎ 🇻🇦 :
you sayid "the classical argument goes everything that begins to exist has a cause" and then "but if everything that exist needs a creator then God need one too" but this is literally a strawman fallacy
2026-08-06 17:50:22
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hemlo_jee
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universe had a start meaning its bound by time god isn't stop looking at god as if gods a being he is neither 'x' nor 'not x'
2026-08-09 19:03:54
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jafardo92
jafardeau :
You are introducing an exception that need a justification by saying that "existence doesn’t need a reason […]", or you are just making your own new religion and you wouldn’t be any different than those you criticize. Universe cannot be eternal because if it was, it would mean that INFINITE amount of time had passed before, which means, we wouldn’t be here right now.
2026-08-18 07:20:37
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nicholasfong358
nicholasfong358 :
thats exactly why theists don't say everything that exists has a cause, usually its every contingent thing has explaination or anything that begins to exists has a cause and they would say god is not contingent nor began therefore uncaused
2026-08-05 00:15:46
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miqu3iasj
M :
First, you say that you “logically cannot believe in God” because of the infinite regress problem. But the problem is that you never actually demonstrate an infinite regress. You simply ask, “Who created God? And who created the creator of God?” But classical theism already has an answer: God is not a contingent thing that needs a creator. He is understood as a necessary being. You then change the original premise from “everything that begins to exist has a cause” into “everything that exists needs a creator.” But those are not the same premise. The argument distinguishes between contingent things, which depend on something else to exist, and a necessary being, whose existence does not depend on anything external. Classical theism has always placed God in the second category. God was never supposed to be “another thing that exists and therefore needs a cause.” So when you say, “If you say God is uncreated, you've admitted that something can exist without a creator,” the answer is: yes. That's exactly what classical theism claims. It's not an exception invented at the last minute to escape the argument. Now, someone can ask: “Isn't that just an arbitrary exception? Why does God get to be uncaused?” That would be a fair question if the theist simply asserted it. But the idea of a necessary being is supposed to be defended independently through arguments about contingency and necessary existence. So the question isn't merely “Who created God?” It's whether reality ultimately requires something that exists necessarily rather than contingently.
2026-08-04 17:26:18
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emzi_01
Mz :
This hasn't engaged with the argument at all. "existence itself is self-sufficient" is just a claim not an argument. Just asserting the opposite of premise 2 isn't enough. Why is there something rather than nothing? Brute fact naturalism isn't a answer. And how can you just ignore PSR?
2026-08-03 19:40:57
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uchihashin13
uchihashin13 :
Also there is a hypothesis that the big bang is a phase of a periodic phenomenon. Our universe undergoes expansion, condensation and rebound. The big bang is the beginning of the expansion phase after rebound. So, if it is a periodic phenomenon, who is to say it had a beginning and has to have an end.
2026-08-09 12:57:59
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user4209009356342
Muhammad😂 :
that thing that created God would be God brooooo
2026-08-06 14:11:02
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dave_hargreaves1
Dave :
so you're saying matter is eternal, and people.say god is eternal
2026-08-04 12:17:58
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serdiho
✟🗝️Papist 🇻🇦✟ :
slide 3 doesn't even say what slide 2 is saying man
2026-08-06 03:26:55
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realkamiru
kamil🪽 :
wait so u gave the correct argument… and then straw manned it one slide later
2026-08-06 09:40:50
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andrew_9994l
999 :
God is metaphysically impossible
2026-08-08 22:13:30
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samokaoja
kesa :
this is extremely surface level and fails immediately in philosophy,the claim isn't "everything needs a cause" but every contingent thing,which can/does change, secondly,God is outside time and the laws of the universe, 3 God obviously dosent change,for change to happen,there must be atleast 2 objects,rust happens with iron AND oxygen,water evaporates with heat,so on,ur original claim is the claim you made,not something claimed by actual philosophy/theology like Saint John of Damascus,Thomas Aquinas or other great Christian thinkers
2026-08-06 18:19:43
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ehebe03
Riyad :
You explained it so simple to understand, this is perfect and I love the vibe of your posts, so glad I found u. Can you please say what you think about Spinoza God?
2026-08-03 17:39:19
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beachboya1
beachboya1 :
I know who created God it was humans 🤷‍♂️
2026-08-07 14:57:38
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