I think in this conversation there's a difference between helping create the situation and justification for lying.
2026-08-30 14:52:21
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Graham Cracker By Night :
I knew a bisexual man who used gay men, but wanted the privilege of appearing straight. He wanted men, but settled for women bc he wanted privilege and power.
2026-08-05 05:35:59
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Kaila :
What I don’t understand is why would a bi men want to be with a homophobic straight women. Being with a queer woman or a non homophobic straight woman would be better for them
2026-08-05 07:18:41
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Anastasia Beaverhousen :
A lot of men need to subjugate, dominate and humiliate the women they’re with in order to be sexually attracted to them also. The cruelty is always the main point.
2026-08-05 02:44:02
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✩‧˚ k 🎐 :
i'm definitely on the side of this discourse that a lot of women are more homophobic than they think and the issues these women have with bi men are rooted in homophobia, However i do think concealing information from someone because you know they wouldn't want to sleep with you/ date you because of it IS very weird no matter what the secret is
2026-08-05 04:24:54
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halfwaysneeze :
I think homophobic people should have to say what they are first before people open themselves to persecution
2026-08-05 05:54:50
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HISnHERpes :
Also “DL” refers to a very specific dynamic with infidelity. That person’s take threw me off cause we just circled back to women being blamed for being lied to. As if a grown man has no agency.
2026-08-09 14:39:46
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Cora M :
I am generally Bi4Bi because navigating the biphobia on any side is easier with someone who gets it, in my experience.
2026-08-07 13:59:55
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lol :
bi men are in a cycle where other ppl erase them and they erase themselves. its a self fulfilling prophecy and everyone feeds into it.
2026-08-05 04:00:15
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j❤️🔥 :
I think honesty and self acceptance could go a looooong way in this conversation. I don’t want to be with anyone who doesn’t want to be with me. Partnership isn’t a favor. And I think honestly would bring a lot more women to the table in good faith. Because dealing with situations wherein women are conditioned to view men as potentially duplicitous anyway, adding another element that isn’t fully understood is wildly mentally disruptive, to the point of outward phobias. It’s not right, but recognizing the same bad systems that keep men from being able to be the full scope of who they are, also means acknowledging that same system conditions women in certain ways as well.
2026-08-05 02:38:08
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Kaylin :
I think this conversation has become reductive for the queer community esp in the way that it has been approached and there a many other way to approach the subject that could bring about progress for bi men. That’s why I think there is misogyny some involved. I’m a heterosexual woman and I would date a bi man but I also have the same conditions as you mentioned just from the things I’ve heard from others who have dated bi men. My question is when dating what did you look for that let you know if a bi man was comfortable and confident in his sexuality?
2026-08-05 06:31:25
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ladyjoanna1979 :
What is the ratio of BSM and BSW dating each other? I don’t know if any? Why is that?
2026-08-05 05:46:00
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romulus :
Professional closeted bi virgin here who has never been a relationship here lmao. I agree generally with what you’re saying but to expound I also wanna exemplify how platonic relationships with straight men are never held to the same scrutiny. Like 99% of closeted bi men probably have straight male friends and if we were to be honest it would change the perception of us, and that is terrifying due to lack of confidence lmao. Even if they would stay friends, some aspects of heterosexual male friendships are homosocially denigrating “making gay jokes, saying “pause”, some sending their gfs looks in the gc for approval. Which is why relationships with women is seen as soothing as it acts as social currency, hence fulfilling the cosplay of a heteronormative man. Essentially it’s a case of wanting your cake and eat it. The most common solution is to stop hanging with covertly homophobic people, but even with cishet male relationships there is a fear of loneliness - alot of them hate their friends lmao. I’m tryna work on it tho
2026-08-06 17:35:11
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Dolla $ign :
THISSSSS! Thank you. And they don’t want to unpack that level of this conversation because it’s easier to point the finger outwardly than to reflect inwardly. Also, dating is literally inherently exclusionary so the idea that everyone has to date. Everyone is part of the reason why this conversation is getting so much pushback because that’s literally not how dating works
2026-08-05 05:49:20
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creditinthestraightwrld :
It’s other men that shame them that make DL men
2026-08-15 00:09:40
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Outer Sukhavati :
I do prefer Bisexual/Queer and or Trans Women over straight women, but I'm not very good at giving the first step or handling romantic rejection so I just spend my time with and eventually date people who approach me first, who happen to be mostly straight women, call me coward but it just kinda works.
2026-08-05 11:15:55
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giu.dallescale :
i disagree, someone not telling you they are trans is one thing, it affects who you are dating, but someone being bi is not that serious,same thing as not mentioning they like tall people
2026-08-07 12:32:39
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HarleyQuinn 🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️🇺🇸 :
Yea, it doesn’t need to be a first date convo but defiantly early on. You can’t be happy in a relationship if you aren’t happy with who you are.
2026-08-05 23:13:18
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Trinity :
You know maybe I'm cold but I don't quite care about the straight person's feelings over a queer person's safety. (Cases may vary of course)
2026-08-05 03:29:15
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kds2107 :
I’m so happy this convo has nothing to do with me!
2026-08-05 08:36:37
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darebarren :
You know, I could definitely get your point for a good bit. I can say that I basically thought the same and I do still think the same
2026-08-05 02:34:57
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💎 :
I hear that side but it could be combined with them not disclosing for their safety.
2026-08-14 04:50:04
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César :
“Because it increases your chances of being with a straight women” that’s when you lost me.
2026-08-05 08:28:39
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