@maklelan: #maklelan3406 Is this why God doesn’t appear to us anymore?

Dan McClellan
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aarontaylor905
aaron :
As a Christian, you nailed it Dan. Bad argument on the apologists part.
2026-09-03 22:35:55
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grandmaannie22
GrandmaAnnie :
It baffles me that people still believe in God
2026-08-06 16:36:57
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rongo...bongo
Rongo Bongo :
And that's a hogwash argument, because even if the proof is undeniable, and god decided to reveal itself my free will still allows me to refuse to worship it. Sure, I would not deny its existence, but would deny its claim of being good and all loving.
2026-08-06 16:57:29
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jeffreyerffej22
Jeffrey :
The skeptic is correct, like Thomas Paine said, Christianity is a revealed religion and it wasn’t revealed to me, so I don’t believe it
2026-08-06 20:51:22
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4maypo
4maypo :
Even if the evidence is “undeniable“ we still have the free will to decide whether or not we want to worship him or her or it.
2026-08-06 19:36:48
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oceanmachines
Andrew :
It would be nice if, rather than "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son..." we had instead been given "For God so loved the world, that he gave undeniable evidence of his existence...".
2026-08-06 17:08:36
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user52103451885506
flash :
I need more than campfire stories about a sandel wearing dude from thousands of years ago to believe that any god exists. Why is that so hard to understand.
2026-08-06 17:02:46
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neverjely
Neverjelly :
If Jesus appeared before me and proved his existence, I would not instantly worship and love him. Being powerful does not mean he's worthy of worship or love. It wouldn't violate my free will at all.
2026-08-06 21:03:46
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benluthi
Ben Luthi :
My kids know I exist, and yet they're still assholes sometimes.
2026-08-09 16:13:18
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howdyannagrace
HowdyAnna :
Why ever would KNOWING something negate free will? Free will can only exist as an educated decision! Is it free will if I stepped into a hole I didn't see? If you don't have all the facts, isn't the one withholding that information negating your free will?
2026-08-06 18:52:55
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jeremy.rains12
Jeremy Rains :
God can do whatever he wants to. he revealed himself to me in a ghostly figure of a man who claimed he was Jesus Christ. I can only be expected to believe that that was the person of the holy Ghost who called me into my purpose.
2026-08-06 22:42:33
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douglas8149
Douglas :
Climate change, we have proof and statistics but people have the free will to deny it. Proof of existence does not remove denial.
2026-08-06 16:38:53
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bowdev02
bowdev02 :
Apologists are never willing to entertain the flip side of this as a thought exercise, what if god revealed themselves in a way that was undeniable and said things like I never told you to condemn gay and transgender people so cut it out, billionaires can’t go to heaven, stop preaching on the street corner, stop worshipping politicians who use christianity to manipulate people, start feeding the hungry and housing the refugees, etc etc.? And the answer I usually get is an immediate thought termination such as “Well it wouldn’t be god, it would be something else” and they literally do not realise that makes them exactly the same as what they accuse skeptics of. On a slight tangent, I think a great disservice has been done by the conflation of “debate” with just saying stuff that you think at each other for an audience. Debate, as in the study of logical reasoning to form structured arguments exchanged in an adjudicated environment that centres around testing the soundness of the reasoning, is supposed to get you to think, and I feel like so much of what gets called debate now is designed for the opposite.
2026-08-06 23:46:37
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kenimprov
Ken Ashford :
I like the contradiction in the statement "God doesn't provide evidence because it would defeat the purpose of faith" with the statement "there is evidence of God everywhere; just look around"
2026-08-06 21:26:30
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markus_jl
PanzerSkjegget :
Why is faith and worship so important to god in the first place?
2026-08-07 05:58:26
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taedubbs
Tae :
I remember reading frog and toad
2026-08-06 18:25:27
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brokendad77
Fortune&Glory :
If god took care of us like a loving parent, he would have our love
2026-08-06 18:58:31
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ectoplasmic67
ectoplasmic67 :
I would love a breakdown of Genesis 15:6… I think Paul’s take on it is wrong. I think it’s Abraham who is deeming that God’s promise is justice.
2026-08-30 18:49:22
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araqell
Tirrick :
God doesn’t reveal himself to humanity because either he doesn’t exist, or he simply doesn’t care
2026-08-06 23:06:51
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doinghingsthehardway
doinghingsthehardway :
Why would the resurrected Jesus reveal himself to over “500” witnesses and refuse to do so now? These 500 were not “saved” before they saw him so why should we believe without the same standard of evidence.
2026-08-07 02:37:21
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akodo1
Otis the Feist! :
The atheist is acting for a reveal that leaves no room for doubt and saying that Jesus did this when he came to earth. But when Jesus came to earth there was much room for doubt.
2026-08-06 22:18:01
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astrokittygirl
Susanna :
My best guess is that, if God is real, he remains partly hidden to invite recognition rather than force compliance
2026-08-06 16:50:31
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shanestocktonbrooks
Shane Stockton Brooks :
The argument that everyone is missing is…God didn’t come to earth as God, but as man! And if it were to happen today…it would play out in a similar fashion!
2026-08-06 18:06:46
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peregrins
Peregrin Took :
Let me testify, I struggled for many years with X, X was destroying me. I allowed myself to hope and believe fully I would be healed. I was healed. I no longer struggle with X.
2026-08-07 06:38:21
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robbenroll
Robbsen :
There are actually a lot of people who claim to have seen Jesus today. And many people believe them. Of course, many others say those are lies. However, I am surprised the woman didn't give that argument.
2026-08-10 17:45:01
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