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emma 𝜗𝜚 :
yes i completely agree Odysseus lost all of his wittiness. everything in the writing felt underdeveloped
2026-08-06 22:30:29
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nytwin :
american sniper but sword and sandals
2026-08-07 09:12:40
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Aaron :
Any film over $100M budget is no longer art. It’s more like a business. It will pander to sell more tickets. People critiquing The Odyssey for not being more faithful to themes or characters or translations are feeding the criti-hype engine that sells Nolan’s tickets and he knows this. Anyone surprised by this strikes me as a tad naive
2026-08-06 21:27:32
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walterscott045 :
That was my big takeaway- “if war so bad why look so cool?”
2026-08-06 21:03:23
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Jonathan :
I feel like as Nolan’s budgets have gotten bigger the scale of his films keep growing at the cost of character work
2026-08-06 21:08:49
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AlshepType :
if y'all so pressed about the movie not being like the source material why not just read the source material? there's a reason why the word is adaptation
2026-08-07 17:27:38
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E :
Holy AI script
2026-08-06 23:31:39
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dev & meg :
Agree with this. In a way, it reminded me of watching Barbie. I know Greta Gerwig can write a more nuanced script than that but hey this needed to have mass market appeal and if if gets more people open to feminism thats cool
2026-08-07 16:32:08
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Kibeth :
It’s a bold move to make an adaptation devoid of the themes, messaging, and characterisation of the source material, especially when they spent so long claiming that it would be the most accurate adaptation ever
2026-08-07 22:59:23
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perfumeplugldn :
I don’t think it was that good a watch either lol
2026-08-07 09:16:35
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Sage Saint :
my favourite review of this movie
2026-08-07 06:34:26
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chim chim :
I genuinely believe so many people would be lower on the movie if they all went home and watched it again after the initial hype wears off and the movie theatre experience isn't clouding your judgement
2026-08-06 21:23:32
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k :
I love Nolan’s Odyssey the same way I love Percy Jackson: knowing that it happily borrows from ancient source material but is ultimately preoccupied with modern Western (for lack of a better term) sensibilities and themes. The stories may be ambitious in their exploration of chosen themes (breaking the social contract / coming of age), but these themes fit modern Western sensibilities — their ambition was never to communicate ancient themes faithfully. On the other hand, faithful translations like Emily Wilson’s try to communicate the truth of the source material to someone with our modern understanding of language, but does not contort the source material for our modern sensibilities.
2026-08-07 11:10:14
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Hellformaggie :
Literally voiced all my opinions. I think Emily Wilson gets so caught up in the classic world that she misses the fact that this film will be a mass-market gateway but also does acknowledge that it's bang after bang, in spite of the supporting characters being flattened. I don't mind slimming down the side characters, but whitewashing Odysseus, a morally complex alien warrior into a PTSD-ridden modern war veteran took me out. At least Nolan had some basis for reading Oppenheimer through a psychological lens, that was more modern.
2026-08-07 00:59:59
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🪻lou🪻 :
this is *exactly* it
2026-08-07 13:27:58
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Momo🍉🇵🇰🇨🇦 :
Great review, exactly what I was thinking…however Elliot page plays Sinon not Achilles :)
2026-08-07 13:58:25
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. :
Nolan changed the story of the Trojan horse from purely an offering to the gods to a peace offering and gift to the Trojans, in order to make Odysseus a shame ridden man that would feel bad about breaking xenia and the bonds between men. This however completely goes against the morality of their time. Even if homer intended the horse to be a gift to the Trojans instead of an offering, he still wouldn't have found it immoral. Cunning was a virtue back then, and the people who broke xenia in the first place were the Trojans. Odysseus' trick was simply a war strategy made by a genius. If Nolan followed this Greek morality to its conclusion it would end with Odysseus bragging to his friends and family about his achievements, which would clash with modern audiences' conception of moral behaviour. I think it made for a more emotional ending, but one that does not fit in the ancient Greek world.
2026-08-07 08:35:00
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CallieB :
I completely agree with all of this! I think this is my favourite review I’ve seen so far. Just want to add that there were some frankly bizarre choices made with the script like references to Sea Peoples and Bronze Age lol which were so distracting and weird that I’m baffled it hasn’t been brought up much in many reviews. All of that along with the underwriting of the characters made the film’s central conceits feel incredibly hollow
2026-08-07 07:32:19
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Nicole :
You put this in the most articulate, concise, and gracious way out of everyone else who did their own analysis and takes. Well done. There's a lot of finesse with how you took this topic on. I agree with all your points and have nothing intelligent to add, just wanted to show my admiration haha
2026-08-07 13:39:43
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zuko. :
it’s not that Nolan can’t write women he just can’t write characters as you yourself pointed out with Odysseus being butchered rest I agree
2026-08-07 22:53:06
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Kali🌊☦️ :
I've been scared to say it because idk how well to explain it, but the Feminism in the movie is obviously written from a man's POV. I enjoyed Circe, but I'm particularly talking about Penelope. Penelope is a patient woman that, in the Odyssey, prefers to work through the system than outside of it. She is shown calmness that only breaks in the privacy of her room. Her outburst in the movie seems like a very shallow moment of Feminism. The idea that the only way to give a woman a feminist viewpoint is to make her reactionary, when Penelope in the Odyssey was anything but. I believe that this is because Nolan never had to deal with being an individual in a system working against you, so his idea of Feminism translates to what he is able to see, which is the reactionary part, but not the part where Penelope used her intellect to protect her agency. Being a good writer means having to imagine yourself in these shoes, not change the character in order to fit your ideal, being a writer means that you have to forget who you are and write from another person's POV. Penelope being calm and cunning doesn't make her less of a strong woman, it makes her seem in control of things, and she was, in the book. This might be stupid, but it's just something I felt was "off" with Penelope
2026-08-07 14:29:50
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Chris :
I love your work bro.
2026-08-07 02:10:53
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ssk2588 :
THANK YOU FOR THIS VIDEO YOU FINALLY PUT THIS INTO WORDS FOR ME
2026-08-07 00:35:42
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Orange Carp :
All cunning was not in focus. He is entitled to his vision, but the cunning was my favourite part of the original
2026-08-07 15:18:10
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note26_ :
Nolan should’ve adapted the Iliad instead tbh
2026-08-06 21:26:26
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