The Wonder Girl :
I get what you mean. My guess is that some of our ideas about names being gendered come from the languages, cultures and naming traditions we're exposed to.
I grew up speaking English, which isn't grammatically gendered in the same way as languages such as French, Spanish or German. I think I originally mixed up grammatical gender, pronouns and the gender associations of names. For example, Ella, Ellie, Ellen and Eleanor are traditionally feminine names, but that doesn't mean the “Ella” or “E” sound itself makes a name feminine. My favourite girl's name is Alice, my own name is Katie, my mum's name is Julie and my sister's is Ashleigh, so I've naturally grown up associating certain sounds and endings with girls' names.
I also realised where I probably got my Shelly confusion from. I had somehow remembered that “Shelly” was a word meaning female in Australia, but I think I was actually remembering Sheila. In Australian English, “sheila” has historically been slang for a woman or girl, while Sheila is also a female name. Shelly/Shelley is actually a different name, originally an English surname/place-name associated with a clearing or meadow on a ledge or bank. So I had accidentally connected two similar-sounding names.
Ashley is a really good example of why I don't think particular sounds are inherently masculine or feminine. Ashley originally came from an English place-name/surname meaning something like “ash-tree clearing.” It was historically used more as a masculine first name, but became much more popular for girls during the 20th century, while still being used for both. I remember watching 4 O'Clock Club in 2012 when I was 10 and being surprised that one of the characters was called Ashley because I'd mostly associated it with girls.
Boys' names make the whole thing even more complicated because their nickname histories can be all over the place. Andrew → Drew makes sense as a shortening, but John → Jack has a much stranger historical route through medieval nickname forms. Then you have Jacob → Jake, Nathan → Nate and Nathaniel → Nate, where Nathan and Nathaniel are related names but Nathan isn't simply a shortened form of Nathaniel.
2026-08-09 13:30:39