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Pkr22 :
You guys are really hoping for a lot of involuntary hospitalizations of women here. Like I don’t think you realize what the consequences would be. Other option is every time a woman is suffering from any type of depression and has children. It’s to immediately lock her up. They used to do that. I guess we wanna go back to bed now. some of you all clearly never read the yellow wallpaper in college and it shows. 🤦♀️
2026-08-11 16:46:46
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jiffybean :
Unfortunately in healthy care if you say you want to die but don’t have an active plan they go “ok well you can go home then”. The system is so so broken.
2026-08-11 15:19:11
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Chrissy :
As a nurse, if you say you feel like you are going to 💀, it doesn’t trigger alarm bells because feelings of imminent doom can be common with anxiety, especially severe anxiety. In order to trigger an immediate medical response, she would have had to answer the last question on the EPDS (it asks about thoughts of SI/HI) or the PHQ9 (both of which she was given multiple times) as anything other than never or no. Lindsey would have known this as a nurse herself and known that it could lead to an immediate involuntary 72 hour hold. Those are the only questions on the questionnaires that would give a medical provider power to do anything more than make recommendations. Lindsey did attempt an in patient program voluntarily but since it was voluntary she was able to sign herself out and never completed treatment. The point is, she had so many resources, she was given so many options from multiple providers. She chose not to pursue them or not to complete them and that was her choice. The only thing that could have been done that wasn’t would be her husband gaining legal power of attorney and medical power of attorney to force her into treatment but again, that is a long legal process and without the documented proof (EPDS and PHQ9 with SI/HI present) it would be nearly impossible.
2026-08-11 17:52:49
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NurseRaRa :
Because in the psych world unless you also have a SI plan you aren’t sent to the hospital
2026-08-11 19:57:12
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cokoa24 :
EVERYONE failed her but involuntary hospitalization is NOT the answer!!!!! that would mean they could lock women up. NO NO NO
2026-08-11 19:26:39
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Amy :
Everyone failed her. And then blamed her because no one wants to take accountability to their poor medical judgment.
2026-08-11 17:27:30
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Gwen Morningstar :
I told my daughter pediatric doctor I was having thoughts about killing my baby and myself. I was on a wait list for mental health. and was off my meds for years. iv never been jump to the top of the list so fast before. they diagnosis me with ppd and ppp. they got me on my meds. and into threapy real quick. and the doctors I got help me. they failed her so hard.
2026-08-11 15:33:09
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GoldieGold :
The infantilization of WHITE ADULT WOMEN IS SICK
2026-08-11 17:46:49
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lily :
Psychiatrist have the right to send a patient to a mental health hospital. If I were to tell my psychiatrist I wanted to die she would literally have me taken to the hospital. And as a psychiatrist, they know the body language, tone of voice, the way someone speaks, etc and if they think they are a risk for SI then again they can initiate that process
2026-08-11 17:35:11
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Into the Void :
She could not be committed by saying that. Therapy was recommended and she didn’t do it. Partial hospitalization program was recommended and she didn’t do it. They tried meds and she wasn’t compliant with many of them. She didn’t give most of them time to work. You can try and blame providers all day but she was given so many resources and providers can’t hold patients hands all day. Do you know how many people have those thoughts and feelings?
2026-08-11 17:39:39
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reading_queen1 :
I am a nurse and my dad had a severe mental illness my whole life. Severe enough to where he was involuntary hospitalized many times. Ok, so in this country, there is a history of medical professionals and psychiatry experimenting and imprisoning people against their will. Because of this, there are so many laws about consent, what consent is and what instances you can in voluntary treat someone, etc. Now there have been many times, when my family knew my dad was deconpensating from his schizophrenia and would need involuntary hospitalization. Now, many times he would never want to check himself in even if he was having more severe symptoms. We knew what behaviors define a 5150, so we needed to wait until he was symptomatic enough before we called law enforcement or MET team to take him. Ultimately, we had to wait until he was incompetent to make his own decisions. So, qualified professionals are not going to place someone in a 5150 hold or force treatment when it doesn’t meet legal criteria.
2026-08-11 18:21:32
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Artie & Annie's Bakery :
No caring about dying. And being suicidal are different. Just as my psychiatrist. Wanting to die and wanting to kill yourself are different things.
2026-08-11 15:29:07
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Princessmeena🇵🇷☀️ :
Thats 🙃 I would have made a safety plan immediately and would recommend inpatient care and I’m master level clinical
2026-08-11 16:41:35
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Betsy Bowman :
What about mandated reporting? I am so confused as to why it wasn’t immediately reported. It was literal ideation playing out 😔
2026-08-11 17:58:14
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bluewewo :
Because there’s a difference between feeling apathetic about death and actually having a plan with the means to carry out that plan. Many depressed people feel apathetic about dying but that’s not actually a sign they are in immediate danger. Just for that alone, no ER or in patient facilities would’ve even kept her. I can understand why that’s frustrating but that’s unfortunately our country’s mental health system. There’s not even enough room for people who are truly emergent
2026-08-11 15:26:27
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iamfunny :
what are you even talking about. she did, maybe re watch the case.
2026-08-11 18:20:54
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brushsstrokes :
It’s bc that’s a very “normal” way to feel for most depressed ppl. It’s not an emergency if u don’t have a plan. What should’ve happened is as a mandated reporter she should’ve called CPS to report concerns with moms mental health and CPS would’ve teamed with the family to ensure Lindsey was supervised at all times when with the kids until she got better.
2026-08-11 17:51:35
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my Boxer- Tyson :
No. It doesn't work like that. You have to have an active plan to harm yourself.
2026-08-12 01:16:47
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curlymama_1417 :
Because you are not a psychiatrist. She didn’t brush it off. She did what she was supposed to. Can’t just lock someone up there are very specifical rules
2026-08-11 17:12:58
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Brandy Ray J :
I feel women get blown off in the healthcare system. We could be having an active heart attack and the first thing they ask is when was your LMP. I’ve been gaslighted by medical professionals so often I just quit going. So yes they failed Lindsey miserably.
2026-08-11 17:44:55
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BLEE eats WELL :
She gave her a suicide hotline number and offered books. 🤯
2026-08-11 16:24:28
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AxO=0 RN 🇵🇸 :
I feel like I’m going to die is an example of anxiety, not suicide
2026-08-11 20:25:08
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helluva_edit 🆘🇺🇸🆘 :
sadly, that doesn’t qualify for hospitalization or acute intervention. someone needs to admit to feeling si AND have a plan. that statement qualifies as “passive si” and nothing is done for it. it’s beyond gross that that’s the system
2026-08-11 17:33:37
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Mistee Mcclain :
I think this misrepresents Dr. Tufts' testimony. She wasn't an uncaring doctor. She was a relatively inexperienced psychiatrist who genuinely believed she was treating Lindsay appropriately based on the information she had at the time. I also think people misunderstand the role of a psychiatrist. A psychiatrist's primary role is diagnosing mental illness, assessing risk, and managing psychiatric medications. While psychiatrists receive training in psychotherapy, many primarily focus on medication management, whereas ongoing therapy is typically provided by psychologists or licensed therapists. More importantly, saying you "feel like you're going to die" or expressing hopelessness is not, by itself, enough to involuntarily hospitalize someone. Clinicians look for evidence of an imminent risk of harm to self or others or an inability to care for oneself. According to Dr. Tufts' testimony, Lindsay repeatedly denied suicidal and homicidal intent, and Dr. Tufts testified she did not observe psychosis. If every patient expressing hopelessness or passive thoughts about death were involuntarily committed, there simply wouldn't be enough psychiatric beds. That doesn't mean Dr. Tufts' clinical judgment shouldn't be scrutinized. The defense has raised legitimate questions about her experience, the records she reviewed, and whether warning signs were missed. Those are appropriate issues for the jury to consider. But it's not accurate to suggest she heard one statement and simply ignored a clear legal basis for emergency hospitalization. Mental health evaluations are far more nuanced than that.
2026-08-11 15:32:32
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AtlasShade150 :
Intrusive thoughts do not equal someone being suicidal
2026-08-11 17:35:10
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