@thr2d2: No Jean Grey was not “Too Evil” Some fans don’t realize that they hold male and female characters to different moral standards. If you are struggling with this story you better hope they don’t do the phoenix saga 😅 #jeangrey #spiderman #brandnewday #xmen #movie

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pancakestackofanxiety
Kaley 🇨🇦 🍉 :
Punisher and Yelena were also both in the movie and have canonically higher body counts than Jean does 💀 people need to get a GRIP
2026-08-12 01:08:17
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thr2d2
THR :
BONUS that I’ll throw into the comments. The Punisher is literally in this movie…a MASS MURDERER. Yet you don’t struggle with the ethics of his choices.
2026-08-11 21:01:49
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nightflame
NightFlame :
There is a difference between nuanced and no real conquences for their actions, most of the characters you showed received conquences (iron man literally gets captured by terrorists and spends the entire rest of his life making up for ultron in signing the accords) idc about the other comics my understanding is that the phoenix is usually another entity doing that bad stuff, jean grey is herself and simply chooses to try to kill innocents and gets away with it, something EVERYONE ELSE get punished for, Thor being another example and nothing happens to her that’s not nuance that’s just the movie not punishing her for being wrong
2026-08-11 21:18:11
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imgoingdownwithth
imgoingdownwiththeship :
✨️misogyny✨️they do the same to wanda
2026-08-11 20:32:18
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mashoga_
💛🤍Mashoga 💜🖤 :
Mind you, these people loved Loki from the start and he was a thousands year old man who wanted power. Jean is a teenager who is discovering her powers while in a state of fearing for her only family's life.
2026-08-11 20:48:21
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sammy.a016
Sofia a 🏳️‍⚧️🇵🇸💖💛💙 :
Wait until they find out about beast
2026-08-12 19:04:43
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gh02sty
Ghosty :
I think they did introduce Jean too evil, but I only really have a problem with it because she's being setup as a big character going forward. I didn't really care when it was Sentry or Wanda, because they are not as prominent as someone like Iron Man who I hated from his first movie until Endgame. Granted, I can understand him and Jean, but that dosen't mean I will like them.
2026-08-12 18:53:58
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zentune0
Zentune :
Being “a little mean” to spider man is underselling it by a fuckton.
2026-08-11 23:44:56
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mjacks85
mjacks85 :
As someone who liked Jean in BND, can we pls make this argument WITHOUT acting like she did nothing wrong? Like fym “a little mean”?😭
2026-08-11 21:18:01
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n_jynx
N.jynx :
People saying she faced no consequences like she wasn't tortured and isn't now being hunted for what she did. Like her consequence is the soon to be rising hate for mutants BECAUSE of what she did, hello?? Like it isn't all gonna happen in a single movie.
2026-08-11 23:44:48
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taradeenihan
Tara Deenihan :
I can’t wait for these people to become Magneto stans. 😑
2026-08-12 01:23:10
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shawndrake929
shawndrake929 :
Thanks for this. Jean is not exactly a paragon of purity in the comics, Phoenix influence or not, and that’s AFTER having Xavier mentor her. (Or maybe BECAUSE of in hindsight?) A young teenage girl who had no stable parental figure and with powers she can barely control lashes out and crosses several lines? Sounds perfectly on brand to me.
2026-08-12 14:39:37
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spiiicy_gaymer
spiiicy_gaymer :
The discourse around Jean Grey in BND just makes me question how yall would’ve reacted if the MCU didn’t hold back with Black Widow
2026-08-12 01:05:07
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kadegotroo
Kade :
I love this version of Jean. So excited for the new X-men era
2026-08-12 18:45:34
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magicalmolly
Molly Likovich🩷💜💙 :
THANK YOU for this. It’s like the Wanda hate all over again.
2026-08-12 18:35:41
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octototoro
Octototoro :
My problem is that: you’re right, X-men has some of the best and most nuanced characterizations in marvel. And this is not Jean’s. If this was swapped to be young Charles instead of young Jean, I’d equally have a problem with it. Jean’s entire character is rooted in her empathy; it’s the bedrock of her character.
2026-08-11 22:08:54
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sj4iy
sj4iy :
Vegeta literally destroyed planets and was redeemed and people love him. But Jean Grey doesn’t even kill anyone and people lose their minds.
2026-08-12 06:54:13
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the_ramones_fan
Ellie 👹 :
Jean Grey they can never make me hate you ❤️
2026-08-12 14:40:30
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sam_gaynor
sam 🌀☀️ :
It’s not just about the x-men. It’s about the double standards for male vs female characters, because Loki can have a redemption arc after desecrating New York but if a female character presents any nuance all bets are off.
2026-08-12 00:45:05
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sus69696969
sus69696969 :
Pre Phoenix btw... 😩 MCU X-men gonna be wild 🔥
2026-08-11 20:31:22
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itsivom
Noah :
I only had a problem with her kissing Peter as MJ just because it was very unnecessary and also perverted
2026-08-11 19:48:58
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disco_duck_
Disco_Duck_ :
Of course people don’t like her doing such an evil act. The problem is it’s never addressed. Why wouldn’t Spider-Man say to her, that guy you threw in front of a taxi probably also had a brother or sister who loved him? Without her facing that it’s cheap movie thrills and out of character.
2026-08-11 21:12:52
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user4599743249
user4599743249 :
They’re going to hateee Emma oh my god😭
2026-08-12 01:54:05
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gninja18
Gninja :
Uh huh how about when Jean sa’d Peter?
2026-08-11 23:13:24
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maryskittles13
MarySkittles(Taylors Version) :
if she was a man they wouldn't have a single thing to say but because she's a teenage girl it's the end of the world
2026-08-11 21:11:31
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