Racism, is the reason imo. The way they are viewing their masculinity is the same way black cis men view it. The problem is how we as black people define and experience masculinity as an oppressed group.
2026-08-12 18:23:39
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Zoe Camp :
Genuine question. Do we think this might be coming from the same place as eurocentric beauty standards? Sort of the opposite side of the same coin. Along the same lines of BIPOC cis women getting transvestigated more often than white cis women? Or white trans women being scrutinized with the same misogynistic language black women often face?
2026-08-12 16:54:51
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iPhone 4 :
This is so real. I have an extremely difficult time distinguishing between a gay and straight white man because I’ve been around black men my entire life, and the bar for what’s masculine/heterosexual is way higher.
2026-08-12 19:22:22
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Ru Chill :
I noticed this with my ex and other people who were stud to transman. There is this heteronormativity trying to be upheld like trying to hyper perform masculinity. Broke up with my ex because he went red pill saying homophobic ( towards men ) and misogynistic stuff
2026-08-12 14:51:36
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niya :
that’s why many studs don’t identify with the term bc everytime they self identify with it they’re met with no if you don’t have a lineup, aren’t hypermasculine, have a feminine voice, etc. and that perception of studs as toxically maculine vs mascs as not is racist and misogynistic. i also think more studs need to claim the term to end the connotation it has
2026-08-13 16:10:02
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Selorm Quarshie :
This reminds me of bell hooks’ book Salvation: Black people and Love, it goes very in depth during two chapters discussing this!! And a historical discussion about why hooks thinks this happens in Black communities
2026-08-13 04:23:57
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oj :
this explains how i feel so much. i always feel invalid and it’s exhausting
2026-08-20 00:28:04
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TGdaComedian :
Ngl I had to really think to understand what you were talking about.
2026-08-21 23:02:52
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imaniwlw :
I don’t feel like I’m masculine enough to be a stud, but I am a stem. Being a stud is like elite level 😂 but like I feel like the term “masc” in the yt community doesn’t necessarily equate to masculinity outside of an aesthetic. But butches are genuinely masculine.
2026-08-13 16:47:37
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Androgyne Fiend :
Yeah.....this has been my issue. I get approached by white trans men and never black trans men. I only want to interact with other black trans men/masc but they hide.
2026-08-13 03:11:43
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RvSarah19 :
I get you 100% but can I throw in my way of looking at it.
Because black people are thought of as inherently less delicate and "more powerful" (masculine) and especially black women. I think that it is more difficult for them to be considered masculine and they have to "over perform" hypermasculinity, because the baseline has already been taken
2026-08-12 18:27:18
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Mystic T :
Back in the 2000’s when I was in my 20s there were VERY rigid standards for “Studs” I had an ex I litterally fought about wearing body powder and panties because she was more comfortable in them but they weren’t for “studs” 🙄
2026-08-12 16:23:59
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Kristen :
yesssss omg
2026-08-12 15:14:51
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Misi :
I been pondering this as well. In spaces that are hook up friendly there is a hard line in definition and preference for masculinity to the point it seems proformative and almost homophobic
2026-08-13 01:27:20
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LynetteCullen :
A white lady blocked me for explaining this
2026-08-13 02:19:18
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holocene1212 :
I want to preface this by saying that I'm a gay ⚪ trans man, please tell me if I'm overstepping here. That being said, from my own observations and with being in community with Black queer individuals, I think it boils down to the idea that if you are a minority, you are *REQUIRED* to follow the rules of society even better than non-minorities, because putting a toe out of line means "giving them a reason". Being both trans AND gay is simply breaking "too many rules" for a lot of the Black community. We see this in the broader queer community, especially around nonbinary and gender-nonconforming trans people. They are "asking too much." I think it's harder for the Black queer men to be openly gay (particularly trans) because of community and familial ties, they tend to be stronger for Black folks.
I do want to say that it absolutely IS a problem for ⚪ gay trans men to be gay, I think if I was with a woman my family would accept my trans-ness much more readily. I am not out in any way in my day to day life, I'm stealth and I don't talk about my husband because it's not safe at my job. Obviously this will vary based on where you live, your job and your ability to "pass" which I do very well. But yeah, it is an interesting sociological question.
2026-08-12 14:24:42
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o o :
non blacks see blackness as inherently masculine so to them any black person is masc if they’re not wearing a pound of makeup. i don’t think black ppl enforce masculinity more than other races i think other races just see us as the ideal of what is masculine (due to racism and slavery) i am transmasculine and a lesbian but black people don’t see that because i present very feminine, but non blacks see masculinity in me because my blackness IS my masculinity. when your race and gender are so heavily intertwined you have to try harder at the gender performance to be seen how you want to be seen
2026-08-12 14:29:01
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André Walker :
Racism and masculine elitism, blk men are usually punked or masculinity constantly challenged so it wires them to have the desire, irregardless or how they present, to crave embodying or seen adjacently to perceived masculinity.
2026-08-13 08:22:15
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kuma daichi :
as a community we have internalized the hyper masculinity that they portrayed us having in media. the women want hyper masculine men, the men thinks hyper masculinity is the default; everything that is fem becomes "gay" as women are associated with weak and we end up with a level of reinforced toxic masculinity that passes down generational trauma. thats why studs are more excepted then fem men. they are "moving up". to be with a man is to lose something. this is also reinforced by the jail culture of raping weaker men.
2026-08-13 00:43:40
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Dr.Oqula :
liking men = feminine and (feminine = bad) isn't black people stuff that's kinda the defining feature of homophobia I think what you mean is that youve expected black transmen to have denounced that notion because they're already trans but being gay = being feminine is in no way localized to the black community. there's also something. to be said about who the hyper masculinization of black people has changed our idea of what masculinity is. and how the external masculinization (as in how they're perceived by other people) if black women gave those men a feeling of having a baseline of masculinity that wasn't enough like "people already see me as manly because I'm a black woman but since I know I'm not manly (pre transition) I've got to go above and beyond for gender euphoria (post transition)"
2026-08-14 22:08:00
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Malachi Berry :
I love being a black man would not change that for a second but I am tired of proving my masculinity to other black men I do not care I just want live my happy life.
2026-08-21 20:25:59
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uZo :
The amount of DL black trans men is so funny to me
2026-08-13 16:33:15
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whyareyoubald :
Buckbreaking. Black men have been getting emasculated for centuries and there’s a level of overcompensation in order to regain their masculinity.
2026-08-12 14:26:56
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