@samfrenojo: @precious_wmm and I on @depthoffield_podcast talk about how the first phase of building is often the easiest, and that overcoming early problems is just a test for bigger challenges ahead. I share how I intentionally put myself in uncomfortable positions, and discuss the importance of relationships in creative industries emphasizing that not everyone must be profitable in cash, but some are there for emergency support. She explain that I see kindness as deposits I can cash out later, and that my life and business are products of relationships with God and people.