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salariatglibyo
Salariatglibyo :
I’m from NI, pretty sure policing and justice are devolved matters?
2026-08-17 21:36:41
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jgreen_cdf
Jamie Green :
The rise of Welsh nationalism has more to do with austerity than the fact we have a parliament imo
2026-08-16 16:41:27
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wolfiehusbando
Wolfie :
Did Blair no understand, or not care? He only had to care to last up until his next election, not think through the long term repurcussions. Devolution is good but I think half of us good melt or fall in the sea tomorrow and that means nothing to Blair, he's not currently PM. But at the time he got some pr
2026-08-17 17:38:50
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ksawdust
Kieran :
It’s been clunky as hell in Wales because in many cases the responsibility has been devolved, but the powers and finances around it haven’t been. Take the economy for example, on paper it’s entirely Cardiff’s job, but in practice most of the major levers are still in Westminster. Mostly WM won’t do anything major because it’s not their job, but at the same time Cardiff is incapable of doing anything major despite political willpower. That emboldens both those who want Welsh independence, who see it as British neglect, and those in favour of scrapping devolution, who see it as Welsh incompetence. Look no further than the most recent Senedd election for the evidence of that
2026-08-16 18:00:13
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homoerected_
Will👺 :
It’s made people think we’re a federal state. The country is broken
2026-08-16 18:13:54
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streak4422
Streak4422 :
Britain’s always been a legislatively unitary system, to the extent that the Act of Union 1707 gave Scotland control over basically everything bar the legislature (e.g. courts, regalia, education, universities etc), devolution in Britain (unlike in countries like France, US, or Germany which were historically defined more by provincial identity) fundamentally upsets the functioning of Britain’s constitution. Chris Whatley’s books on this are excellent
2026-08-16 14:39:10
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truth.against.lies
Truth against lies MAHDI. :
We don’t need devolution, we need direct democracy, and libertarian socialism, to bring about an egalitarian country.
2026-08-16 23:36:50
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wsmccusker
wsmccusker :
I think that maybe a federal system could work, but for it to work, you'd have to break England into separate "States" - I favour the ancient kingdoms personally (Wessex, Mercia, Kent, Northumbria, Etc) - but I don't think anyone would allow that to happen as it would degrade the idea of Englishness
2026-08-16 11:55:48
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emxyz0
em :
The issue with devolution is it makes nationalists think they can do it themselves, ignoring that London taxpayers bankroll Scotland and Wales (and almost all of the other English regions). An independent Scotland would be immediately bankrupt and unable to join the EU.
2026-08-16 21:07:08
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totalsxok4m
totalsxok4m :
i swear it just weakens us
2026-08-17 06:40:30
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jamesbowie92
David bond :
I think it did work in a way. Now it’s much harder for the Indy campaigns to blame everything on Westminster. The unionists at least have arguments to use about NHS or taxes that they wouldn’t have had if devolution hadn’t happened. If there were no devolution I think the calls for Indy would’ve been even more successful
2026-08-16 16:48:41
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notalanbrazil
not alan brazil :
he was right. At least in Scotland. We voted for devolution then rejected independence by a record shattering 2 million votes
2026-08-16 18:33:19
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teddybear72572
Teddybear72 :
You come across as believing that Blair made a mistake as he opened the door!!!.In other words he should not have allowed devolution and it would have shut us up or fizzled out? 😂🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿
2026-08-17 15:18:30
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patrickxoconnor
patrickxoconnor :
Devolution had to happen with Northern Ireland getting its own parliament as part of the Good Friday Agreement to end the Troubles. It was the key reason Unionists in NI agreed to the agreement (as it was a whole of UK change)
2026-08-16 22:09:40
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boabd1911
BoabD1911 :
One of the largest spurs for the independence movement in Scotland was Thatcher. And she only came to power due to Callaghans government folding. Due in part to a fella called George Cunningham who was a Labour backbencher who added an amendment to the Scottish assembly vote in 1979, resulting in the assembly not happening, even though a majority voted for it. All roads lead back to Labour incompetence I suppose…
2026-08-16 19:30:57
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jetpackproductions
Jet :
no, the new labour project was all about shifting responsibility, to the regions, to the EU, to quangos, etc
2026-08-16 21:32:43
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edwardcwesternarmenia
Edward Corbett :
Home rule in Ireland literally was passed, in parliament… it’s just it was too little too late and war of independence was already starting
2026-08-16 18:27:40
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edhojgard
ed :
Aren’t Scotland and wales I. Theory indipendence like could they just vote on becoming republics
2026-08-16 17:56:20
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then3wbr1t
The n3w Br1t :
I think Scottish and Welsh devolution was a mistake however i partially blame Margaret Thatcher (despite her being the best postwar pm) and her Scottish team for increasing anti Westminster sentiment by implementing the poll tax in Scotland first.
2026-08-16 14:55:20
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bigbremenfan
bigbremenfan :
It depends. I would argue that without devolution, the Scottish independence referendum in 2014 would've had more chance of succeeding. Looking from the outside, I don't see that big of an appetite for independence. If it was something that was desperately wanted by a clear majority in those countries, that would be reflected by mass demonstrations or even violence. You don't get a country because you kind of want it, you get it by fighting for it. Scotland keeps getting compared to Ireland, but it's not the same. Irish people were dying in the streets to get independence, while Scots couldn't bring themselves to tick a box in a booth.
2026-08-16 22:34:46
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peterandsidan
Pete & Sidan 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 :
Really interesting video! Would be interesting to hear an analysis of the impact of Westminster failures since 1999: Great Recession, austerity, Brexit, pandemic etc
2026-08-17 09:04:14
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tryingtoenjoylifeasitis
tryingtoenjoylifeasitis :
This is a very English take on home rule. There were campaigns in Scotland for decades for devolution - it shouldn’t be seen as a halfway point to independence for a lot of people.
2026-08-16 19:43:27
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jwk860
Jwk860 :
I fully believe that if brown won in 2010 the independence election doesn’t happen. And if brexit didn’t happen there would be significantly less demand in Scotland for independence.
2026-08-16 18:01:08
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dom20999
Dominic Reid :
Indy will always be called for by a SNP government. What is it you think has changed in Scotland since 2014?
2026-08-17 07:41:23
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user2383826467592
user2383826467592 :
scotland has always legislate because its a seperate legal system 🤔
2026-08-16 21:56:33
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