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𝐌 :
This is the naturalistic fallacy lol, by this logic, post menopausal sex, using contraception, or choosing to be celibate would also be immoral because they don't serve reproductive utility? why is this standard only applied selectively?? biology describes mechanisms, not moral obligations, its extremely silly to call homosexuality "immoral".
2026-08-24 12:46:36
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Rylan :
Ayan is presupposing intelligent design with his argument
2026-08-25 16:20:39
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𝔐𝔬𝔥𝔞𝔪𝔪𝔢𝔡 :
new pfp everyday 😭
2026-08-25 04:49:15
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Othy :
homophobia is taught, love is not
2026-08-24 13:43:13
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nero’s mom𓋹🪷 :
This is a horrible argument because it inherently says u can only date to reproduce
2026-08-24 13:39:23
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is it immoral to date an infertile person or to just date and not have kids
2026-08-24 11:47:55
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𐌔ource :
You would have to prove why something going against our natural biological dispositions would be a bad thing. It wouldn’t be good because it’s not contributing to evolution and reproduction, but it wouldn’t be bad also. You would also have to define what you mean by bad, and you would have to prove why something going against our natural dispositions would be a bad thing, it’s not contributing to anything and it’s not harming evolution, so it would simply be neutral. If you say not reproducing= bad, then everyone who chooses to not have kids is a bad person lol, so we know choosing to not have kids which is also against our biological dispositions is not considered a bad thing, therefore being gay which is also against our natural dispositions wouldn’t be a bad thing. If something is bad because it goes against our natural dispositions, then not having kids should also be bad because it doesn’t contribute to reproduction and thus it also goes against our natural dispositions, it’s impossible to prove this is bad and we all know not wanting to have kids is neutral, therefore being gay is also neutral.
2026-08-24 12:36:10
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TrueVoid :
Humans are animals 😭😭😭
2026-08-24 11:22:10
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Zetex :
Your argument contradicts itself. From a biological perspective, the mouth is meant for eating and breathing, yet you use it to debate. Hands evolved for basic survival, not for holding phones to watch TikTok or play games. None of these serve a direct evolutionary survival purpose, yet we don't call them immoral. Judging people based on strict biological functions makes no sense, especially when members of the LGBTQ+ community contribute to and support society just like anyone else.
2026-08-24 14:36:09
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EVAN ✞ :
I hate the natural argument because bro ? dolphins rxpe one another all yhe time does that mean its natural for anyone else to do that ? be fr
2026-08-24 13:02:46
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Crow Mauler :
according to that logic sitting for a hours, eating high amounts of sugars and unnatural ingredients, exposing our eyes to blue light at night, not living in pacts/tribes are all immoral because they go against our naturel dispositions
2026-08-24 19:15:58
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PatFhey :
So doing things that dont provide anything to survival or reproduction is bad?
2026-08-24 12:21:07
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Emmanuel :
So if somebody is infertile and can’t have kids would u also say that for them to have sex would be immoral/a waste since they can’t reproduce and therefore can’t serve a purpose in survival?
2026-08-24 15:05:40
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Noism :
horrid argument on both sides
2026-08-24 15:49:23
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belguim aerospace :
even if it goes against natural processes, how would that make it immoral???
2026-08-24 14:22:03
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ryamu😖😖 :
everything haram is whispered from shaytan, but non muslims don’t believe in shaytan so they perceive it as involuntary. that’s why we can’t really enforce our muslim standards and rulings on non muslims to this case
2026-08-24 14:09:08
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Sosganz :
Even if we grant his argumet, that doesnt make homosexuality immoral nor disgusting
2026-08-24 12:18:32
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M :
"homosexuality does not provide anything for reproduction or survival so it is an action we shouldnt take" so any other acts for pleasure, enjoyment, fun etc that arent mandatory for survival/reproduction we just should never do? so we shouldnt have hobbies like painting, board games, collecting, chess etc because they do not necessarily benefit our survival
2026-08-24 12:38:49
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Trahonen :
"lets say for the sake of the argument that homosexuality is wired in to you at birth" then imidiatly afterwards "because we have a natural disposition against it"
2026-08-24 17:51:53
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