Seymour’s argument seems to be: don’t target help by race — target it by need. Fair enough. But what happens when the evidence shows that need is disproportionately concentrated within a particular population?
Do we address the disparity, or pretend we suddenly can’t see it because acknowledging ethnicity makes the spreadsheet uncomfortable?
If Māori experience a particular problem at a significantly higher rate, targeting the factors producing that disparity isn’t giving someone a “special privilege”. It’s responding to the evidence. Equality means everyone gets the same thing; equity asks why some groups consistently need more intervention in the first place.
And there’s a delicious irony in demanding everyone else produce mountains of evidence while repeatedly leaning on claims, examples and correspondence whose sources apparently have to remain hidden. “Trust me, I’ve seen the evidence — no, you can’t see it” isn't exactly the gold standard of evidence-based policymaking.
You can't simultaneously argue “follow the data” and then object when the data identifies an ethnic disparity.
Otherwise it isn't the data you're following.
It's the conclusion you wanted before you opened the spreadsheet.
2026-08-25 01:17:58
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Locked In Essentials :
It’s the same play in every civilized country … play the race moral high ground and bait the people into the trap …. It’s all garbage . Take it from the u.s
2026-08-25 01:44:56
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Lisa Maxwell :
I am kinda over people not allowing David to speak, he is treated poorly. While I don’t agree with all that he says, I am intrigued to hear more about we all being treated as human and not divided by race.
2026-08-25 02:57:43
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Rightisright :
Thank you David. Needs over race, always.
2026-08-24 20:28:39
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Harky69 :
I don't understand why people don't realize that treating everyone the same with health care etc will have no negative effect on Maori. So if we all get the same access to diabetes meds based on need not race it's a win win for all
2026-08-24 23:17:04
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Brett :
David is not the Racist one in that interview
2026-08-24 21:30:03
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Chris Barrie879 :
You got my vote if you dissolve TVNZ
2026-08-25 04:19:39
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J Simpson :
This was not an interview. Tova was picking a fight. Seymour didn’t fall for it. Why are journalists so anti people being treated equally based on need??!!!
2026-08-24 23:23:53
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Ponit :
How disappointing to see Tova fall. She really showed herself in tis interview.
2026-08-24 22:50:43
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RyujinAU :
all these statistics but she's leaving out the the most important part people who are apart of these statistics made CHOICE and it lead to these outcomes nothing to do with race
2026-08-25 03:38:15
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firebug :
Tell me….. how do Māori have less access to a gp? Do they go to a doctor and get told to piss off as they are Māori? NO. IF YOU GO TO THE DOCTOR YOU WILL BE SEEN.
2026-08-24 22:51:55
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BrokeGamerNZ :
one rule for all
2026-08-24 19:34:44
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Kane Hill :
You got my vote
2026-08-25 03:53:12
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Martin Woodward :
hes right
2026-08-24 19:55:01
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mike :
Tova and the leftys are getting desperate desperate 😅😅
2026-08-24 19:51:38
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Le Vin The-First :
Act always treats Maori as different by race
2026-08-24 20:47:50
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Tumekemahi :
I agree we should all be one ,so let’s all be Māori !!!
2026-08-24 20:07:30
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JAE :
Im voting for empathy. Im voting for Better. Im voting Labour.
2026-08-24 19:28:26
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Jack Robbie Gale :
love this guy! should be PM
2026-08-24 19:51:02
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Khohask :
Pretending race does not exist is not a solution..
2026-08-24 20:36:22
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123 :
This guy don't like statistics. Just his rhetoric 😂😂😂
2026-08-24 19:51:02
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user5004238172435 :
David should boycott one news and go on ryan bridges only
2026-08-24 19:23:22
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𝓽𝓪𝔂𝓵𝓸𝓻 ꨄ :
clock her david
2026-08-24 19:22:37
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Craig :
💯 correct same treatment for everyone this race based stuff id a farce
2026-08-24 20:09:15
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TifffC :
It’s all about division! You are CORRECT Mr Seymour
2026-08-24 20:58:46
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