@sebbywebz: Why Did Final Fantasy Drop Turn-Based Combat? Because FFX was too popular, timeless and successful. We can't have Modern FF be those things. So they dropped it forever Metaphor ReFantazio and ATLUS games have always been about change. Why should Modern Final Fantasy have all the fun? Persona games want to sell as well as FF15, right? As for FF16's low sales, that was obviously due to Console Exclusivity, and nothing else. Turn-Based Combat is outdated, like Chess. If Metaphor and Persona played like Devil May Cry or Kingdom Hearts instead, they'd enjoy far more sales! I would like to thank the Modern Final Fantasy community for showing me the way. ATLUS fans have them to thank for the coming Shorts. With occasional footage from Clair Obscur Expedition 33 and Chess #Metaphor #Persona #FinalFantasy #Videogames #clairobscurexpedition33
And then Expedition 33 came along and won every award under the sun. Bet you any amount of money the next mainline FF title will be turned based. Because all SE does is chase trends and nostalgia bait now.
2026-09-01 21:51:24
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lunar_nocturnus :
Preach
2026-09-01 18:57:58
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Sebbywebz :
Why did Final Fantasy abandon Turn-Based Combat? Because it worked great and everyone liked it
2026-08-30 07:17:44
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BossPls :
Insane they haven't done a remake of ffx.
2026-09-01 04:50:52
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PeaTearGryfin :
The problem with Square is that they don’t employ gamers. Square’s entire upper and middle management teams are made up of people who have heard of video games, but don’t actually know what’s trendy. That’s why Square is chasing Ubislop games while Ubisoft itself is fighting to keep the doors open
2026-08-30 02:25:35
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Ham_sanitizer :
I’m convinced that people who don’t like turn-based just have no attention span. They need to next shiny thing dangled in front of their faces & wont play any game that requires actual strategizing
2026-08-31 17:30:02
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riicecakw :
I miss stories like ffx holding ur hand walking u through an stunning story while giving u still a good portion of freedom.
2026-08-31 17:43:15
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Spunchly :
10 did well cause of the story...saying it's cause of turn based is a reach
2026-08-29 21:02:27
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Mkrombi :
maybe an unpopular opinion but I wanted them to stick with XII combat honestly
2026-08-30 01:46:44
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Stone Free :
ngl unc you did come with some valid points HOWEVER i do think its disingenuous to show ff16 sales compared to dmc5 when dmc 5 is available for both last gen and current gen plus pc, while ff16 was stuck on ps5 for like 2 years and still sold relatively well
2026-08-29 21:49:31
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Seth :
You think e33 will make them think about going back to turn based? Or you think they’re done with it in general?
2026-08-31 00:06:48
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Krisko94 :
FFX is one of the only true turn based games. everything before was ATB which isn't the same. so saying that FF franchise abandoned turn based is patently false. even after 10, 12, 13, 15, 16, 7Re have all not been turn based. X is the only one.
2026-08-30 21:40:41
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boreragga :
imo ff series is really insecure about their own identity
2026-08-30 07:34:20
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Matthew❗️ :
It’s lowk TikTok’s fault idky ppl would rather have gun and ball slop rather then turn based
2026-08-29 20:58:02
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MyReunion :
turn based is boring, it only worked back then cus it was the limit they had with making a big game. tech got better and so did the combat
2026-08-30 10:15:23
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iron_komodo :
I mean they basically turned away from it around 15. 11 was an mmo that leaned heavily into the turned based systems through menuing. 12 was an Atb game with added movement but was still functionally turn based. FF 13 was another variant of Atb. 14 at first was a spin on 11s system. 15 was the first mainline to go full ARPG.
2026-08-30 22:51:08
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a bald nerd :
square got the idea from gaming journalism in the 2000 when they were saying turn base is dead square was like this must be true
2026-08-30 15:18:08
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teavisfornst :
They figured that all the (at the time) current players would stay because theyre hooked and thr game says final fantasy, and that they would get new players interested with real-time action mechanics to also then get hooked. They didnt respect their own game design because they wanted more money and figured the majority of game players would rather an action game. Womp womp
2026-08-30 23:28:58
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JusthaHunch :
Its like beating a dead horse at this point. Clearly square is not going to make their mainline FF series like their classic turn base system anymore so just move on. Find a better TBS game and enjoy those instead.
2026-08-30 18:14:17
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Xsnake :
Turn based is boring, E33 is a very rare exception so don’t count it.
2026-08-30 14:25:22
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zapzap :
turn based is sooo boring. and in hack and slash game I can dodge attacks with my own skills. turn-based, I have no choice but to take the hit. there no fast paced combat and so grind and repetitive.
2026-08-30 16:23:18
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DizzyWanders :
mind you x-2 and X-3(the novel) completely make that story pointless in X
2026-08-30 18:09:59
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GedByrne87 :
Hot take but e33 is a soulslike pretending to be turn based.
2026-08-30 10:51:00
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Will :
If I want a live action FF, I play kingdom hearts.
2026-08-30 04:42:16
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Aidan Keane :
Man square might be one of my least favorite companies ngl 😭✌️
2026-08-29 20:19:37
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