@aidanetcetera: Delta airlines doing #cybernetics from first principles

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thebuff_man
Tim^Buff :
The People’s Republic of Walmart is a great book on this subject
2026-08-28 00:46:43
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chunky.seamen
larb :
scary in theory, but how would this even work outside of deltas own distro channels? delta doesn’t know who’s searching on google flights or Expedia, but it has to give a price anyway. if that price isn’t stable until the end of the booking process, the consumer can just book at one of their competitors
2026-08-29 00:24:34
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cjfc420
CJFC :
Cybernetics has nothing to do with computers. It’s the study of feedback loops and recursion in systems. The name comes from the Greek word for steering a ship, because steering ships is a feedback loop where previous headings impact subsequent headings.
2026-08-27 19:36:51
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babs_zone
babs_zone :
incredible hook
2026-08-27 19:40:55
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wateverwutever
Josh Hawn :
Delta is able to do this because they have regional monopolies on flights to certain other regions. You already have no or little choice on which airline you fly depending on where you live and where you’re going. Only at that point are they able to squeeze out as much consumer surplus as they can. Otherwise competition would just offer those flights at lower prices. So the monopolies are the problem, the computer system is just a result of that problem.
2026-08-28 04:15:19
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jjrobs0
jjrobs :
A primarily private economy that uses prices to convey information is pretty much the only way, so far discovered, to run an economy that actually works. It is inefficient in observable ways, yet still less inefficient than the rest. The Soviet economy was famously one of the most inefficient economies of all time.
2026-09-04 12:41:42
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morgann1234
morgan1234 :
so ironic that the caption reads “data that Delta receives from surveying customers” when you actually said “from surveilling customers”. That’s the opposite mechanism 🫠
2026-08-28 05:30:45
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josiebee23
josie :
it's worth remembering that Adam Smith, the capitalist economics godfather, invented the term 'free market' to describe active government regulation to prevent monopoly and ensure anyone can freely enter an industry to compete. That model, and the 'invisible hand' price signal, has probably never existed anywhere, least of which in the aviation industry which should just be nationalised and run for the public benefit.
2026-09-02 01:03:31
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kebodeauxpe_af
🧡🩷coquine💜🤍☭ :
"communism is when corporations extort their consumers for every nickle and dime" come on, bro
2026-08-28 05:35:37
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cast_fstop
gdms :
very very weird comparisons here..
2026-09-03 05:45:50
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moonknightlight
Alex K (he/they) :
Similar to how landlords are using algorithms to set rent prices? Or Atlantic City casinos using algorithms to set hotel and restaurant prices?
2026-08-28 10:48:49
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xmetalhead2000
xMetalhead2000 :
Literally corporate communism
2026-08-28 03:49:14
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liam.b2
Liam :
This is interesting ive been thinking about wether the gosplan couldve worked if it had better compute.
2026-08-27 23:11:13
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the_stoned_economist
the_stoned_economist :
what actually stopped the computerization of the Soviet economy was that it was intentionally sabotaged by the bureaucrat class because I'm more computerized economy needed less bureaucrats much many of them would lose their jobs and thus lose the power and prestige.
2026-08-28 16:39:37
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definitely7053
Definitely :
It’s also funny because soviets famously hated cybernetics in 50 calling it a wh**e of imperialism ( I kid you not look it up: Генетика — продажная девка империализма)
2026-08-28 00:05:50
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adam.partington
Adam Partington :
project cybersyn
2026-08-27 21:28:27
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bunnypapi
BunnyPapi :
I think the algorithmic pricing issue contributes so much to the cost of living crisis. it's why you can make over $100k, which was always seen as comfortable, and still end up paycheck to paycheck. it's the ultimate perversion of "from each according to his ability..." where the needs part is replaced with the needs of corporations to maximize profits.
2026-08-28 15:29:05
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kelp0481
Kelp :
Brilliant analysis as always, critical of both extremes and opening a conversation about where to go next — 🏆☝️🤗
2026-08-29 12:12:42
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jnardino
jnardino :
This is not exactly reality today and probably won’t be in the future for the simple reason that each airline has to price its routes to compete with other airlines. There is only so much algorithmic tweaking Delta can do on its own to target me on my hunt for a good LAX - NYC fare when United is right there offering its own fares.
2026-08-27 23:24:25
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ate50eggs
ate50eggs :
I feel like the East Germans were onto something with those semi-robotic filing cabinets from the lives of others
2026-08-28 06:06:25
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65ricky02
user6152449352929 :
So expect more corporate espionage and sabotage
2026-08-27 20:17:21
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pandapandaow
BajaBlastMyBrainsOut :
We are in hell.
2026-08-28 02:18:08
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andrewdrahn
Andrew :
This sounds great. I’m incredibly cheap, so that’s not a lot of money
2026-08-28 00:05:22
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palebluedot446
palebluedot :
yup
2026-08-29 09:12:40
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user4800121156295
Archaeowannabe :
Feel like this has been the case in a lot of markets for a while now. AI is just perfecting the mechanism.
2026-08-28 00:39:15
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