@tsfolio: Replying to @Class The letters are worth reading #lordoftherings #tolkien #literature #lotr #christian

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darthmader20
DarthMader :
There’s a stark difference between religious symbolism and allegory
2026-08-28 20:23:55
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samkrohn2
Sam Krohn :
When we compare narnia and lotr in their Christian themes we have to look at the characters. Narnia was a direct “reimagining of Christianity” in the way that they take very famous stories of the Bible and reimagine them in the characters and plot of the books/movies a good example is Aslan being a direct representation of Jesus and him sacrificing himself instead of Edmund and forgiving him is a great example of the story of Jesus dying on the cross. But in lotr many of the characters are inspired by biblical people Sauron is most obviously inspired by Lucifer while the orcs (1st age orcs) arguably are inspired by the fallen angels Lucifer took with him when he was casted out of heaven. We also have to remember lotr also has representations of old English and Norse mythology (Norse more for the fantasy races) themes in it as well
2026-08-28 20:36:17
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existential_philosopher
Aristos {~×°•|§∆°×|•°•∆\} :
It's not a Christian story per se, but it is full of Christian morality and core beliefs. Tolkien makes sure to make the line between good and evil as clear as possible and the message that good will always beat and overcome evil is present in every single one of his stories including the Silmarillion and the Hobbit as well
2026-08-28 16:12:39
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ax0r1s
&Y :
I think it is attached to it's identity. Remember, middle earth is just... afro-eurasia. Weirdly shaped but it's supposed to be our world. Arda IS Earth. Which is why Tolkien included multiple prophecies about Eru coming down and incarnating as a man. Eru is just God. The actual Christian God who incarnated as Jesus Christ later in the history of Arda
2026-08-28 22:48:09
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rakamatz
Ghostly :
Look to the east of my coming? Dude, sacrifices himself and come back in white? He literally wrote in Christ.
2026-08-28 18:45:17
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comiccringe
bcolechristian :
does anyone think frodo is Jesus? i think if tolkien subconsciously put the role of Jesus onto any particular character it would be Sam, but still not a perfect comparison by any means
2026-08-28 21:53:28
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big_john.neill
Big_John Neill :
Gandalf was basically an immortal Angel
2026-08-28 19:41:34
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themarblepillar_
TheMarblePillar :
LOTR is Christian but it’s more baked in English culture. A lot of the settings, aesthetics, people etc are based off Anglo-Saxon culture and the the setting itself is purely English
2026-08-28 20:33:00
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amalginc5
Totally normal :
This is a big reason why I so strongly disagree with “separate the art from the artist.” Art is always as a reflection of the artist regardless of it is intended to be one or not
2026-08-28 21:25:11
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mcjosh75
McJosh7 :
Okay okay its not allegory. but its a Catholic Work 🙏
2026-08-28 21:37:21
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galiodalio
galiodalio :
not religiously christian but morally christian. tho personally id say it captures abherhamic cosmology more than anything else tbh
2026-08-28 18:26:34
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appleuser99738426
X :
CS Lewis was affiliated with actual occultists. I don’t trust him or Tolkien, sorry.
2026-08-29 01:06:14
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embarassedonyourbehalf
Advon :
Tolkien’s cordial disdain of allegory is so great because I can usually just copy paste it when people are claiming allegories I don’t like
2026-08-28 14:04:55
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erebus703
Erebus :
I might be wrong but doesn’t one of the stories in the silmarilian (can’t spell) literally mention the prophesy of Christ? I’m not a Christian I don’t have a stake in that being true I just remember it from somewhere.
2026-08-29 01:16:41
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gabrielmayfield68
Gabriel Mayfield :
1. The God of Lotr is God of the Bible. 2. It’s the world Pre Flood.
2026-08-28 22:26:43
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spicyatreides
Hunter :
You can definitely find some parallels but I don’t think it’s a Christian story like Narnia is.
2026-08-28 21:05:05
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micah6467
Micah :
It can apply to pretty much any work. The author puts a part of their soul into the book, That is incredible
2026-08-28 13:58:20
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falkschgedacht
Falk :
That's true for LotR but the Legendarium as a whole can be really heavy handed with the Christianity.
2026-08-28 14:24:03
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despicable_tree
Captain Tuna :
The greater story of middle earth (like the song of creation) is extremely Catholic, even if LotR itself isn’t explicitly catholic
2026-08-29 00:43:22
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nicklausdude
Nicky :
“Return of the king”
2026-08-28 16:08:31
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sayanwelzel
✠📿𝐬𝐚𝐲𝐚𝐧|𝐟𝐬𝐬𝐩🇻🇦🗝️✠ :
@Thomas Wilcomb ?
2026-08-28 20:12:09
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bburton359
Brian Burton :
It is Catholic, not Christian. Catholicism, apart from greater Christianity, is a culture based on pagan superstitions. Catholics often don't pray directly to God or Jesus, but to Mary, Saints, &/or angels. No one in ME really prays to Eru, but they pray to Varda, Manwe, & Ulmo (angels) or Earendil & Elendil (saints). Catholics carry sacred items (crosses, rosaries, scapulars), as do ME characters (rings, jewels, etc). The moral themes aren't necessarily Christian, but common in stories older than Christianity.
2026-08-28 15:08:06
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