Azazel The Forbidden
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You’re cherry picking the Hadiths that suit your narrative best. Sahih Muslim 1783c says “So he told 'Ali to strike out these words. 'Ali said: No, by Allah, I will not strike them out. The Messenger of Allah (may Peace be upon him) said: Show me their place (on the parchment). So he ('Ali) showed him their place and he (the Holy Prophet) struck them out; and 'Ali wrote: Ibn 'Abdullah.”
2026-09-07 16:34:32
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Lucky Luke 🇮🇪🏴 :
The Quran also appears to contradict the tradition that believed that they spliced the Quran together, it rather appears to have been written at once without splicing, which requires one literary designer writing it
2026-09-07 17:01:44
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boom :
Weak argument, my grandmother can say her name and say “hi/hello” in english doesn’t mean she can read or write completely
2026-09-08 03:27:32
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Marzie :
Have you spoken about the standardization process of the Quran? It’s interesting seeing the inner Islamic debate about the validity of Hadiths. From an exmuslim perspective, I enjoy the points Hadith rejectors make but it confuses me if many Muslims know how the Quran came to be. I learn the process of the Quran coming down in a mystical way but as I got older we were taught the process. The verses came down through multiple avenue and many of it is “inspirations.” A very intense thought or a meditative state would be the vehicle for many verses. Really interesting because the same points Hadith rejectors make can be sad for the Quran itself. Like many artists speak of intense feelings that are sudden and random that put them in a flow state to make some of the greatest songs… it’s so similar to the way revelations or inspirations are given down….under those standards wouldn’t Michael Jackson be a prophet 😭😭😭
2026-09-09 17:34:52
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Akhisom :
He was a well traveled merchant, probably could read, maybe not write or write well. The whole illiterate thing was most likely made later scholars to defend against accusations of him being the (very obvious) author of the quran
2026-09-16 17:12:51
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islam :
Terrible one mate
2026-09-07 17:21:03
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rh. :
i don’t see your point, many muslims including myself believe he could read and write, just that he wasn’t taught by man how to do so, god just gave him the knowledge
2026-09-07 16:07:05
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Certifiedaya :
Wait this entire time he was illiterate till his death? I thought once he started receiving the Quran he was able to read and write ? Or it wasnt the case ( based on the Islamic narration?)
2026-09-07 16:55:37
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Aqua Tofana :
I would like to know what their standard of illiterate was. If you knew the basics to write an intelligible letter maybe that wasn’t good enough to be considered literate. Being a scribe was a job after all and you probably had to be better than know how to write, you owe two camels. There are a lot of little details that can completely change the meaning
2026-09-07 22:22:02
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☆ :
i was just thinking of, wasnt theres that story wheres bc he was illiterate jibril was sent down and place knowledge in his heart or something
2026-09-07 16:17:23
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Roberto Martinez :
Idk but I think this guy is satoru Gojo can’t fully prove it because he wear a mask I go by the eyes
2026-09-07 17:38:46
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Meh-its-me :
I’d assume he was literate to an extent, considering it was said he was a merchant and a good one at that
2026-09-08 09:20:28
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Our own :
I reckon he could read perfectly well in multiple languages
2026-09-19 07:59:50
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helvetiquenoire75 :
I think there is a possible middle way of partial literacy
2026-09-07 16:59:14
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RedKetchup80 :
OK this is new news to me. And opens up even more questions about the ‘book’
2026-09-07 16:51:08
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Panther :
they will tell him you don't understand Arabic
2026-09-11 21:01:21
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AHMADU :
whoa, didn't know it was this worse 😳
2026-09-07 22:22:29
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killerhawk81 :
I agree with most of ur comment but literacy can be learned if we r to be believe the 1st revelation was Iqra (read) it is suffice to say that the prophet (pbuh) was learning reading and by extension writing as well)
2026-09-08 13:45:29
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jryivfjhguj :
let's say he can write and read but that's would be after he was a prophet because when the first verse of the quran was sent he told Gabriel "I can't read"
2026-09-09 17:14:42
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🫥🫥🫥 :
I think this is more of an interpretation issue than a outright contradiction, literacy has so many dynamics so two people can make contradictory yet equally arguably true statements
2026-09-15 01:36:35
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loopmood :
when they said he couldn't read meant he wasn't read into the scriptures
2026-09-14 07:26:19
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_aafaqlone :
Very funny
2026-10-02 11:56:46
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🎃T & coco 🍂 :
😏Very ambiguous and suspicious 🤨
2026-09-24 21:48:08
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𝑇𝑖𝑛𝑎🪽 :
Finally hearing someone talk about it
2026-09-08 09:37:28
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