@leppanphysiques: Most men doing shoulder press have never actually trained their front delts. They've just been doing an extra inclined chest press and wondering why their shoulders won't grow. The bench is too flat. The elbows are drifting back. The upper chest is doing everything. Two things need to change and neither of them require more weight. If the effort is there but the mirror still isn't showing it, comment GAMEPLAN below. The training is rarely where the real answer is.