@drtoddphillips: We know subjective moral judgments exist. We make them every day. The additional claim is that objective moral facts exist independently of those judgments. Maybe they do. I’m open to being convinced. But saying “God” or “the Bible” doesn’t establish that claim by itself. So Christians, tell me where I’m wrong. #ObjectiveMorality #Morality #Christianity #Deconstruction #Metaethics

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schwackhammer2030
Schwackhammer2030 :
So at best, Christian’s can only claim their morals are God’s subjective morality. Interesting.
2026-09-21 18:26:54
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john.byron.rainey
John Byron Rainey :
God is not an entity out there who blesses, curses, and establishes morality. God is the supreme reality, which is the primary reality of all existence. In spiritual language, we can call this Spirit. In secular language, we can call this unified consciousness. So God isn't merely supreme being, God is the ultimate reality itself. The nature of supreme reality is love. That is the defining quality of true life. Our experience of morality in this life, directed by ordinary moral intuition and conscience, points us to love as the supreme energy bc it is the nature of reality itself. This is the objective morality: love is all that exists in truth.
2026-09-21 18:21:09
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jasonb8677
jasonb8677 :
but where do you base your subjective morals from ultimately? Is it just opinion?
2026-09-21 21:22:01
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b_squared_unfilte
b_squared_unfiltered :
To say there is no objective morality is to really say there isn’t morality. A morality that is subjective can’t stand. It changes with the wind and great evil can be deemed moral by a collective such as it was during the hollocaust.
2026-10-12 23:08:30
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commandershuddle
Commandershuddle :
We have human minds. It doesn't matter what we think or how we come to our conclusion. God made us. He can blind our eyes and thinking or he can reveal the truth to us. Like it or not, fair or not, it's up to God.
2026-09-26 00:07:40
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joncoltart
Naruto :
I watched a video about how god can't turn 2+2=5. 😁😁😁. so there for the Christian god is not all powerful. there is still limits to the Christian god powers.
2026-09-21 18:11:58
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itsmeben92
itsmeben :
Im an atheist and a moral realist. My perspective is that morality is a practice in how we treat others and there exists objectively better and worse ways to do so. It’s not a matter of anyone’s mere opinion to determine how good or bad an action is, it’s a matter of our shared biology which consistently and measurably repels or attracts certain feelings and behaviors.
2026-09-21 19:23:06
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verarchy
TheFirstVerarchist :
As an atheist, I am an author on objective morality from the context that we cannot prove ownership of one human over another, and the immorality is assertion of ownership over another.
2026-09-21 20:31:46
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jford012
Jim Ford :
I would point you to Sam Harris' book the moral landscape. You may not find it convincing, but his argument for objective morality works for me.
2026-10-17 02:24:30
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kimpossible52769
kimpossible52769 :
I was raised in a non-religious house although my dad and 2 older brothers were baptized Catholic. I was not raised in a nice or normal house. I grew up with the morals and values that I identified with. They've never changed. I don't believe in God as religious people believe. I absolutely believe in something but I'm still figuring it all out 🤷‍♀️. I believe the God of the bible as written is evil. I read between the lines ✨️
2026-10-12 22:30:20
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pmoneylovesall
Pmoney loves all esp :
I haven’t seen an argument that proves to me proof exists. I have a lack of belief proof exists.
2026-10-15 01:10:52
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just_my_thoughts14
jistiktokked :
I think you're defining objective in a way christians don't have to accept 😂 I don't think morality exists somewhere outside of God like a law God has to obey. I think goodness is grounded in God's nature. but if all we actually have are subjective moral judgments, then is "slavery is wrong" objectively true or is it ultimately just our judgment that slavery is wrong?
2026-09-24 07:12:21
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dungeonmaquer
Maestro-J :
Morality is formed from your social and cultural groups. All morals are subjective and entirely based in your cultural beliefs, not your religion. If morality were from your religion then all the 45k sects of Christianity would have nearly identical moral judgements, and they are wildly different
2026-09-22 00:37:32
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aaroncunningham108
Aaron Cunningham :
although I do feel more and more as you do. to many contradictions to ignore.
2026-09-23 02:42:18
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emilyscreams2
LieweHeksie :
In the animal kingdom, morality exists. It is in the DNA.
2026-09-21 18:54:12
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reysawareness
Rey Cardenas :
The confusing thing about objective morality is that it manifest differently with each individual being. This makes it look subjective, but really it is in accordance with the divine individuality that human beings possess.
2026-09-27 18:46:11
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janmggf
jb :
I have no hope anymore that objective morality are achievable as long as there are unbelievers, but real Christian didn't put their hope in such idea because the world will end knowing there are millions of unbeliever when God return as per the Bible. So yeah, people may either die doubting or die yet live again is more hopeful.
2026-09-23 02:32:15
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chipironides
Chip :
Philosophers like Plato or Kant said that an objective morality existed, and we could reach it through reason. But they failed
2026-09-21 19:10:20
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leahmc39
LeahLMc :
Experience is the answer to this. Morality is in built. If you were to ask a child do you think it’s ok to murder someone they might ask why or say no. Yes we grow up with people that mirror those morals but that’s because they initially came from within. We all know in a moment of action whether to do it or not. This is where God resides. What is your gut telling you in that moment. If it doesn’t align with the action then that’s when you take the problem to him for clarity
2026-09-22 12:22:33
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justella871
just’ella :
… but, you have no moral judgment. you are the sum total of all your experiences; there is no defence needed in choice. the moment ‘we’ becomes an issue the argument is moot.
2026-09-22 02:04:24
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sheeba9542
Sheeba :
Treat people the way you would treat your family, friends, yourself and your pets (my cat is my life) lol That’s what it comes down to
2026-09-22 16:56:29
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revegelance
Grace 🏳️‍⚧️ :
Best I can come up with is that things that cause harm are usually not good.
2026-09-21 19:50:08
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sgt.roy
Sgt. Roy :
Why does he keep asking????? You made a decision, stick by your decision!!!
2026-09-24 01:28:34
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josephscotthealey
Joseph Healey :
Who's to say what is moral?
2026-10-23 15:38:45
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justme_d_7
𝓓🌴 :
Real objective morality requires a rational framework based on well-being, empathy, and harm reduction that applies equally to everyone, regardless of what ancient tribal text they happen to worship.
2026-09-27 10:01:32
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