To me, the idea of either partner making all the decisions just feels like a toxic relationship. I am not looking for my partner to be my child or my parent. We are both adults, I want a functioning adult who will be able to thrive on her own and in turn, doesn’t need to control what I do. It’s always gonna be co-dependent and toxic like that.
2026-09-26 08:46:38
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chantellehale175 :
This is all so true, but also, there's the added layer of me not wanting to submit to a man because I don't trust a man to make decisions that will benefit both of us. Any man who would ask this question would 100% choose his own wants and needs over something that benefits the collective.
2026-09-26 01:01:56
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gentleencounter :
Perhaps the more interesting question is not why women no longer want to submit.
It is why some men need submission to feel secure in their role as men.
Because if your masculinity is secure, her autonomy should not threaten it. She does not have to be beneath you for you to have value beside her.
2026-09-26 06:58:22
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Melissa Lynnette :
Mainly it’s because I have yet to meet a man whose discernment I would blindly trust.
2026-09-26 01:04:56
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Thee Creatrix :
I have yet to meet a man that’s smarter than me especially when it comes to matters about myself for myself 🙄
2026-09-26 03:05:05
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not today :
This is why I hate assigning traits to masculine and feminine or men/women. If being independent is masculine, being dependent is feminine. If being assertive is masculine, being passive is feminine, and so on.
2026-09-25 20:52:36
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J :
It's insane that we have to say "hey, women are people! Just like you!"
2026-09-26 05:41:43
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Omgismynamethatcommon :
I just don't understand how this concept has gained traction. Every household I knew growing up was run by the matriarch
2026-09-26 09:15:52
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Rrrrk buggurl :
Also, if “submitting” was natural for Homo sapiens, especially for about 50% of our species, then it wouldn’t require constant propaganda, enforcement, or even convincing. And that goes for anyone. Like you said, autonomy is a part of our nature….our humanity.
2026-09-26 04:00:35
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Sam :
It’s just male entitlement
2026-09-26 00:29:29
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AllieJaaayee :
Anything good for me never required that much convincing.
2026-09-26 00:48:15
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Elizabeth Schulten :
My 8th Dan Karate sensei spoke in his autobiography about raising his students on his shoulders! That is a leadership I will follow anytime!
2026-09-26 08:44:36
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Beck :
You’re not wrong but I think a lot of men pick up the word “submissive” from redpill content with no real grasp of what it actually means or how alarming it is to expect it of other human beings. A contestant on MAFS Australia was banging on about it recently and it soon became clear he was just parroting what his favourite podcast guys were saying without very much thought.
2026-09-25 19:45:27
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Maddy :
Oof. Grew up in the church , NEVER got told this as a man. I’ve attended so many weddings and it’s sad how to most people women have to be inherently ‘less’, no mater how equal they say you are.
2026-09-25 17:08:10
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Leia🩷 :
Do female animals always "submit" to male animals? No. Female animals are more dependent than males.
2026-09-26 05:20:09
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wrenderfox :
When I was 11 and my sister was 20 our father took us to a broadway show downtown; the show got out at around 11pm. As we left the theater my father, in all his wisdom, looked down the sketchiest, darkest back-alley I'd ever seen and suggested that the three of us take it as a shortcut back to the car. My sister and I didn't really get along, but in that moment we were instantly united because even though we were decades younger than our dad we both instantly clocked that it would be dangerous for two young ladies to go walking down a dark alley in the middle of the night while my father, apparently, saw no issue. Anyways, that's why I will never trust a man to "lead" 💀
2026-09-26 02:25:23
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TheHighPriestess2222 :
Men are hierarchical, women are not. Outside of a relationship men love to be submissive but then want to claim some power back and feel that women are less than them so that’s the place to do it
2026-09-26 04:30:42
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Think_You_Got_Me :
oh I dont trust anybody. I question everything. nothing makes me comfortable to a degree of safety. what makes you think I will probably trust ANYBODY handling MY STUFF.
2026-09-26 02:36:40
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Sam :
i have had an interest in the submissive side of kink but that interest faded when most of the men I've spoken to that are interested in submissive women are looking for blind, non reciprocating obedience. submission is just control to them. they dont understand the nuance.
2026-09-26 02:05:53
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Roudeina :
You are very articulate! and you repeatedly hit the nail on the head!! All the love from Sudan ❤️❤️I doubt I'll witness men relating to and empathizing with women in my generation, but hopefully our daughters might!
2026-09-25 20:18:39
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Saulio :
Behavior within the bedroom often shows up in behavior outside it. Straight females are aroused by being led by a male, and this arousal shows up in low levels within the relationship. These roles tied to gender are not completely socially constructed, socially shaped and reinforced for sure.
2026-09-26 03:36:07
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Clapdatahhtopizza422 :
I like it that way if a woman doesn’t want that then it’s 100% okay she can live her life she has autonomy
2026-09-25 22:15:27
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carly ❤️ :
the creator does NOT submit to the creation!
2026-09-26 07:57:03
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krysbrewer :
I did that with my ex, just went along. he made bad decisions.
2026-09-26 04:46:38
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Šhântï Grãham :
Me trust a man?? Yeah hell will freeze over 😂
2026-09-26 03:20:56
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