slide 3 doesn't apply to agnosticism, most atheists provide argument to make gods existence unlikely
2026-10-09 22:40:27
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yep :
99% of "atheists" are atheists because they dont like religion and it doesn't fit with their own views, they dont even support the belief that no god/higher being exists yet they call themselves athiests
2026-10-04 15:11:30
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Alderyc :
1. No flaw. The answer is yes. If the "only" reason you don't do harm is fear of punishment then its an admission you desire to do harm, but choose not to out of fear. Thus you are not a "good" person.
Those without the desire to do harm simply don't do harm, even if there was no punishment.
2026-10-06 15:58:54
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John :
Christian here, couldn’t agree more! Atheists will go around making moral statements and claims and forget about their very subjective basis which they make the statement upon 😂
2026-09-28 09:49:06
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llajsd :
the craziest thing here is most atheist is atheist because they view god and his messengers as "evil". Its like they never reflect on their own beliefs
2026-09-29 12:44:30
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وشق :
they’d rather believe science and morals made by humans that change every 5 years than ever believe in god
2026-10-06 08:30:45
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Jorge 86 :
your whole argument of "atheism is bad cause atheist lider is evil" is nonsense, since atheism doesnt believe in objective morals.
2026-09-27 23:20:18
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pathtoreason :
There are dozens of ‘bad things’ according to religion that we don’t do despite there not being a legal punishment. So no, secular people can be moral and good without the fear of punishment. Unlike religious people. Zero burden of proof unless we assert certain things : btw atheists have in fact disproven the possibility of the theistic god🤣 ur third argument is a strawman and misses the point. And for calling god evil you dont need objective morality. Tbh whoever made this post has negative IQ because they didnt even think for 2 seconds
2026-09-28 10:56:30
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🌿༄Mimikry :
2026-09-27 14:20:13
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adorement :
gem post 🥺
2026-09-27 18:43:20
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ANAS 🇲🇦 :
YOU COME BACK LETS GOOOOOO
2026-09-27 21:03:28
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Alderyc :
5. Everything that exists in reality can be observed to exist in reality.
If god is able to interact with or influence reality then those interactions and influences would be observable, irregardless of the nature of god or his alleged existence outside reality. If god is unable to interact with or influence reality then he is no different from being nonexistent.
2026-10-06 16:10:34
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raesc :
1. refraining from murder only out of the fear of the consequences makes you a terrible person, yes. to be good, people need to have better reasons not to kill each other. "because god exists" shouldnt be that reason.
2. true, and? atheism is still a lack of belief that doesnt need proof, its the default. no positive claims need to be made by an atheist, "i obviously cannot ever be sure, no one can, but i have not been shown a good reason to believe in a god and the evidence ive seen leads me towards the option that he does not exist" is enough.
3. no one says that😭 and the moral laws that emerge a belief system arent evidence of the in-/validity of that belief system. you wanna know why? because its subjective✌️4. the problem of evil uses immanent logic. "by your own religion's laws on what is right and wrong, your god is evil." whether thats true or not is a different topic.
5. obviously true, no one claims otherwise again😭
2026-09-27 13:59:35
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Btaken_below 🇩🇪 :
"religion isn't actually evil but every single person who's ever been in power because of religion is"
2026-09-27 14:14:31
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azrel :
ex muslim athiests are the worst archetype of athiest and they genuinely ruined athiesm reputation
2026-10-03 20:24:56
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surgevvl :
If you quite literally do not kill people solely because you don’t want to go to prison you are indeed a bad person? What kind of refute was that
2026-09-27 17:06:31
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surgevvl :
holy wars have killed exponentially more than atheist wars mate let’s not
2026-09-27 17:11:41
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Collin💭 :
1. Not doing something out of fear is not moral goodness it is simply self preservation it's generally good but it's not morally good if you would do it without fear coercing you
2. I simply do not make those claims
3. Doctrines HAVE enabled alot of toxic behavior that's undeniable but you logically can't generalize athiests off of a lack of belief in something that's redundant the regime were but not because they were athiest but because they were fascist dictators
4. Objective morality simply isn't real so I can't say anything is objectively evil and neither can you but I can say something is evil in correlation with how harmful it is to the well being of life.
5. The argument highlights religious unreliably if you can't definitively observe divinity in the natural world then your just making unsubstantiated claims based off of unproven doctrines
2026-10-10 09:18:33
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wisedom :
Most atheists blame religious people as evil while also believing morals are relative and subjective. Average condition when your civilization in decline.
2026-10-05 10:51:41
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2026-10-01 04:35:24
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Alderyc :
3. Blatant misrepresentation. There is no Atheist regimes. Atheism describes a state of being, it is not a worldview from which any movement was based upon to further the cause of Atheism.
No civilization was built upon Atheism. No calls to spread Atheism by forced conversions. No crusades to take back the "unholy" lands from the infidel believers.
No regime has ever existed that was formed by Atheism, to defend/spread Atheism, nor to wage genocide in the name of Atheism.
2026-10-06 16:06:26
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