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Monkey Mischief :
they get an active perception whenever they specifically ask to do so. if it's just one of those what do I see generally then you get a general answer, if you're asking how many wines of wire around the hilt of that dagger, then you get to roll because that's considerably more intense than just glancing through a room.
2026-10-03 21:43:00
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Jesus H Christ :
On that note: A perception check is for looking for something, an investigation check is for knowing where to look.
2026-10-02 19:57:14
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Domitia :
-Laughs at 27 passive perception-
2026-10-02 23:43:01
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Chris Dauzat :
I'm the reason my dm doesn't use passive perception. I have a lvl 15 envoy in starfinder with a passive perception of 34.
2026-10-03 12:48:24
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wretchedmagus :
other things could matter too, the elf may notice that the people in the paintings are dressed for a particular elvish holiday and a carpenter may notice that the trim doesn't match over a particular spot while the wizard notices that all the dead bugs are missing legs
2026-10-02 20:43:09
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Nerdbait🔆🌀 :
Wouldn't that be passive investigation
2026-10-03 08:03:49
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Leo Gage Starlet :
then what do you use investigation for because thats how I use it, looking for something specific unless its specifics about a person which is insight. perception i use for the room or a crowd.
2026-10-03 16:08:39
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TrueKong :
We should be doing a lot more passive checks in dnd.....but factoring in for passive intimidation would be nuts
2026-10-02 22:35:34
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Cl0ud Walker :
We once had a player with a passive perception of 30 the dm genuinely struggled to set up an encounter without us knowing minutes before it happened
2026-10-02 22:34:59
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Matthew Eisenson :
I personally hate passive perceptions as a mechanical aspect in dnd. I use it solely for rp moments and to say someone might notice things first. However, to me the line between passive and active can be very blurred and I have had to pause games because a player was upset that they couldn't substitute their role for their passive (aka the minimum they could roll) or just ask to not roll because they were "passively" looking (different players on different occasions).
2026-10-02 19:45:04
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koodaloo :
It cracks me up when I describe a room for everyone and then my passive 30+ perception player goes “what do I see?” And I tell them the exact same thing.
2026-10-03 14:41:58
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Sean Renaud 🍉 :
I've always thought of it as perception is actively searching for clues, investigation is pouring them together to form meaning
2026-10-02 22:46:44
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Jason :
How do you deal with players that constantly say “I carefully move forwards…”
2026-10-02 20:01:38
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TB🇨🇦 :
alright... now when would you use an investigation check or a choice between investigation or perception?
2026-10-03 06:51:54
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Tanrantus :
Passive perception is what the PC’s ‘see’ without actually looking around, that is the feel of a room or whether or not something that’s happening draws their attention. When they ask “what do I see” it is with the express intent that the PC is actively looking around/investigating their surroundings. If anything would make me ask for a perception check it 100% would be a player looking my in my eyes and asking what’s in a room or what they can see in this hallway
2026-10-02 19:58:24
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grinch1380 :
even if that is how it is in the rules, that makes wisdom/perception one of the best stat/skill in the game. you mean to tell me, that if i have a secret door/ window in my dungeon room and I put a dc 18 perception check for players to see it, a pp 19 ranger can just see it immediately? well than why do other skills not have passive stats, like religion? if passive skills are there for consistancy sake, that a perceptive person always stays perceptive, why does a well read wizard not have a passive arcana of a 20? none of it makes sense
2026-10-03 05:07:12
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mytopcomment :
Not arguing, just tryna learn: In that example, the darkness made into dim light by darkvision reduced their PP enough that they didn't notice the slime? Or was it bc darkvision doesn't show colors? . So 'DM, what do I see?' gives the same results as just walking into a room (PP)? . How do I in-game get an active perception without saying "DM, can I do an active perception?" I thought that was taboo.
2026-10-02 20:02:16
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Timothy :
What’s the difference between a perception check and an investigation check? When do you use an investigation check?
2026-10-02 21:28:41
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TheDescendant6 :
Typically I describe things that anyone would see just by walking into the scene. If a player is looking for something more specific, then I may ask for a perception check
2026-10-03 01:54:51
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Ingavar Khaos :
how do you get good at asking for certain rolls as the DM... one of the comments on the one shot I ran was I only asked for perception checks, when some of the things asked could've been investigation or insight
2026-10-03 03:08:55
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Koalynks 🇨🇦 🏳️⚧️ :
All I'm thinking is that my fellow authistics and I have a higher passive perception than normal.
2026-10-03 12:47:33
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Wolfie :
rookie dm gets to deal with my passive perception 20 tonight fun
2026-10-02 21:56:18
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Azazelbishop🇨🇦 :
Also if you use passive perception like that that means that person's past the perception is the floor they cannot roll lower than their passive perception it's in the rules and that goes technically with All Passes passive Insight passive investigation passive stealth you can never roll lower than your passive
2026-10-03 02:36:18
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hcts.bruh :
I level up as a DM each time you drop another video 🙌🏽
2026-10-02 21:08:28
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Kain Highwind :
The pain part for me as a DM is when some of my people get confused and ask often why this check I'll allow perception or investigation but the one earlier I only allowed one or the other. Sometimes it makes sense that a perceptive person would notice what someone that investigates it would, sometimes it requires you look deep into it even with a high perception so you gotta investigate.
2026-10-03 00:22:12
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