this is so dumb, they believed after the youth believed in musa pbuh
musa pbuh went to the Pharaoh, some believed, and some didn't including the Pharaoh and the magicians
but after that event and what the magicians saw, they believed and got crucified for it
so your argument is so dumb and misleading
"where's ur proof"
here
the beginning when musa went to the Pharaoh
"So no one believed Moses except some descendants of his people, for fear of Pharaoh and his chiefs, lest they persecute them.”
— Qur'an 10:83
the event before the magicians belived:
"Delay him and his brother, and send summoners to the cities, who will bring you every skilled magician.”
— Qur'an 7:111–112
the magicians declaring that they believe in Musa's god
"And the magicians fell down in prostration. They said, ‘We believe in the Lord of the worlds, the Lord of Moses and Aaron.’”
— Qur'an 7:120–122
i know you're a coward and you'd probably delete my comment but i got my ways to expose you
hmar
2026-10-04 18:56:47
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سمير :
Doesn’t the first verse mention "من قومه” meaning from his people aka the Israelites held captive as slaves by pharaoh and his army. And that we can then deduce from quranic sources that the magicians were from the people of pharaoh aka Egyptian magicians?
2026-10-04 19:58:04
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N :
This contradiction gets even worse when the Quran claims it’s written outside of time . Meaning these two ayahs existed for eternity before time itself . So they can’t use any argument saying it was time specific .
2026-10-04 16:22:40
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Jane Doe :
Atheist here, I really like your content. Out of curiosity, why du you wear a mask?
2026-10-04 17:08:04
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absurd_mf :
There answers
2026-10-04 17:53:51
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Irfan :
Weakest argument in my life
2026-10-04 16:36:56
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xenos.chrestos :
Bro, crucifixion in BC 😂
2026-10-04 16:52:47
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ℳ. :
I've searched about it and it gave me the answer that the 2 different verses were talking about 2 different situations the first verse was before the miracle of the snake and the second one was after it but idk
2026-10-04 16:37:25
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Nico :
Well in a perfect world everyone would drop the book cause this disproves it but….
2026-10-04 16:55:45
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𝑰ᴳᴼᴿ ˢᵗᵃˢⁱᵘ🇵🇱🇧🇫૮₍˶Ó﹏Ò ₎ა :
religions are bulshi
2026-10-04 16:19:51
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rh. :
such a dumb argument, two different times, plus they did it in hope to avoid execution
2026-10-04 17:04:42
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Abdullah :
@MominTheBeliever
2026-10-04 18:15:36
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Shxdo.nry :
@MominTheBeliever
2026-10-04 19:49:48
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Amazingfacts :
People are really dumb for fall for this Israeli Ai bot.
2026-10-04 18:07:00
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Debate Evidence :
Don’t mix be smart 🏺📖 Qur’an and Setne II — A Striking Narrative Correspondence
The Egyptian Setne II Papyrus — British Museum EA10822 contains a striking narrative sequence resembling several stages in the Qur’anic account of Pharaoh’s magicians.
1️⃣ Gathering of the Magicians
📖 Qur’an:
“So the magicians were assembled for the appointed time of a known day.”
[Ash-Shu‘ara 26:38]
🏺 Setne II:
“The three sorcerers…”
A group of magicians is gathered under the ruler.
2️⃣ Reward for Success
📖 Qur’an:
“Will there indeed be a reward for us if we are the victors?” He said, “Yes.”
[Al-A‘raf 7:113–114]
🏺 Setne II:
“Carry out your feat of sorcery … if your hand succeeds, I will do for you many good things.”
Success → reward from the ruler.
3️⃣ Permission from the Ruler
📖 Qur’an:
“You believed in him before I gave you permission.”
[Ta-Ha 20:71]
🏺 Setne II:
“My lord the Ruler, let me be sent down to Egypt…”
Then:
“was sent off by the ruler.”
Request → permission → confrontation.
4️⃣ Public Confrontation Before Pharaoh
📖 Qur’an:
“And it was said to the people, ‘Will you gather?’”
[Ash-Shu‘ara 26:39]
🏺 Setne II:
“in the court in the presence of Pharaoh”
and:
“with the people of Egypt looking”
Pharaoh + people + public magical confrontation.
5️⃣ Teaching Magic
📖 Qur’an:
“Indeed, he is your chief who taught you magic.”
[Ta-Ha 20:71]
🏺 Setne II:
“Is it he whom I had instructed in the language of wolves who now performs magic against me?”
Taught him → he performs magic against him.
6️⃣ Nullification of Magic
📖 Qur’an:
“So the truth was established, and what they had been doing was nullified.”
[Al-A‘raf 7:118]
🏺 Setne II:
The magician produces successive magical effects:
Fire → extinguished
Darkness → removed
Another magical act → nullified
Magic → nullification → another act → nullification.
7️⃣ Defeat
📖 Qur’an:
“So they were defeated there and returned humiliated.”
[Al-A‘raf 7:119]
🏺 Setne II:
The magician realizes:
“that he was not able to contend with the Egyptian”
and attempts to flee.
Nullification → inability to contend → defeat.
2026-10-04 16:38:21
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Polo Logo :
Hey, just stop talking about things you don't understand, Israeli.
2026-10-04 18:23:46
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