@truechristianministry: Since some of you are missing the point, let me make this clear. I’m not upset that JAW declined a debate with me. I’m not even upset that he made a video saying eternal security is easily disproven. I’m stating the facts because HE publicly tried to present what happened in a way that made me look bad. I invited him to debate eternal security. He told me he wasn’t equipped to debate the topic. He then made a video arguing that eternal security is a doctrine no Protestant can defend. Since he didn’t want to debate it, I made a response video and went through his arguments POINT BY POINT. In that video, I mentioned that JAW had been given the opportunity to debate me on this exact topic and declined. Then, when someone asked him why he wouldn’t debate me, HE told people that I made an “exposé” video and shared our private conversation to make him look bad. So I’m simply making sure the facts are clear. I didn’t expose our private conversation. I stated the relevant fact that I invited him to debate this exact topic and he declined. I think that’s completely relevant when, a week later, he makes a public video claiming the doctrine is something no Protestant can defend. He doesn’t owe me a debate. Never said he did. And I have no problem with someone saying they aren’t equipped to debate a topic. But don’t publicly characterize what I did as some sort of “exposé” to make you look bad and then expect me not to clarify what actually happened. Put the shoe on the other foot. If a Catholic challenged me to debate the papacy, I said I wasn’t equipped to debate it, and then a week later I made a video saying, “The papacy is easy to disprove and no Catholic can defend it,” would that Catholic really be wrong for pointing out that I had JUST declined the opportunity to debate that exact subject? I don’t think so. I’m not mad he declined. I’m not mad he made the video. I responded to his arguments, and now I’m correcting the way he publicly characterized my response. That’s it. @Jesus and whatnot #christian #christianity #christiantiktok #christianitytiktok #truechristianministry
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Monday 05 October 2026 00:58:53 GMT
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£ :
Nah you Lwk in the wrong tho
2026-10-05 05:31:52
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KtownCatholic :
I Like you both but I Think JAW makes total sense here.
2026-10-05 02:02:42
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ShxrkFTWツ :
Jaw is a great debater for his age but his age does show sometimes.
2026-10-05 02:13:46
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bluewhale :
If he isnt knowledge about a topic why make videos on it where you already take a stance...
2026-10-05 01:13:52
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Yapswithelva :
you’re in the wrong
2026-10-05 14:47:53
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Halal Chuy :
wait, there's people that believe you can't lose salvation?
2026-10-05 02:51:07
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freeborn :
If it's a doctrine that no one can defend, then it should be easy for him. But if he's not well read on it, why is he making videos on it?
2026-10-05 01:49:25
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Jo 🤸🏽♂️ :
JAW is still 19. Hes smart, but at certain times his age shows and I’m saying this as a 22yr old
2026-10-05 01:54:36
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𝐓𝐄𝐒𝐄𝐌 :
bro... y'all are brothers enough with the noise,
2026-10-05 02:09:44
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Mrsoul :
Your in the wrong bruh
2026-10-06 03:49:27
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And the thumbnail is literally “checkmate” on his video. Like bruh be forreal
2026-10-05 02:35:14
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Natasha :
thank you for calling that out
2026-10-05 01:15:46
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Lwanda :
this discussion really needs to be had. because if the brothers and sisters who do not believe in eternal security are wrong (of which I am convinced thay are) than they undermine the ability of jesus to keep his sheep, and they puff tham selves up in self pride in the process. 🙆🏾
2026-10-05 01:20:07
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Slipo :
Jaw is goat of debate
2026-10-05 14:55:41
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That_boi_Smit :
Yall both believe
2026-10-11 01:09:58
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ThCrypticRooster :
Feels like a lot of misunderstanding from where I’m at, could be wrong but just how I see it
2026-10-05 21:54:41
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Cassandra McBride :
I do enjoy your content, it’s been helpful for me! At the same time, I do feel like you jumped the gun a bit, respectfully. JAW declining the initial meeting wasn’t at all an absolute no. It seemed he was still opened for a debate but needed more time- that’s not what your response video said. It wasn’t until after your response video that he shut down all chances of talking with you. As far as his video on the topic, he already stated that “When he doesn’t know something, he likes to read and make videos on what he is learning…” It seemed like that was all he was doing.
2026-10-05 16:08:33
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Dee5281 :
Jesus and what not? Seems a little cavalier about my LORD and Savior
2026-10-05 01:38:30
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Coolkaren7.0 :
I think he’s just scared and not liking to be wrong
2026-10-05 03:16:33
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ʝօɦռ†էɦɛʀɛʋɛʟαէօʀ⁷⁷⁷ :
Both of your responses are valid Michael. He’s running because you’re too much of a problem on this topic.
2026-10-05 05:22:15
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IGetYou03 :
Jesus and whatnot is a troll. When people refuse to debate him he makes multiple videos saying they are scared or running
2026-10-05 06:27:29
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✝️🇻🇦kp_vidal🇺🇸✝️ :
A video and a debate are 2 different things, also u saying “I didn’t want to” even tho u just didn’t have to makes no sense, but anyways if still wanna see yall debate cause it be nice to hear
2026-10-05 02:10:48
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Harian :
Yeah I’m on your side with this. I like JAW but yeah I could even tell he was not telling the whole truth as soon as he said you were being bad faith. Not to idolize you or anything, or saying that it’s impossible for you to be bad faith, but all I’ve ever seen from you is good faith explanations, so when someone says someone who I’ve only seen be good faith, was bad faith, it raises red flags. And I don’t even agree with you on everything, btw.
2026-10-05 03:36:00
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Godservant :
Ngl this just boosted my confidence in eternal security... Jaw will debate the most disrespectful people on church fathers etc but won't debate you? Sure 😃
2026-10-05 12:31:35
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Callan Bartlett :
If anyone will not welcome you or listen to your words, leave that house or town and shake the dust off your feet….Jesus
2026-10-05 01:17:56
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