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phoenix48103
S J :
The short answer is that socialism costs money so you have to do capitalism first to fund the socialism.
2026-10-06 17:54:23
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the.bearfather
The Bearfather :
What China has done is absolutely brilliant and it proves that a hybrid economy (high levels of government ownership in independently run companies) can work!
2026-10-07 19:22:31
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jessicasthoughts
jessicasthoughts :
Sure, on the surface that sounds like a compelling argument, and it's absolutely true that China has pulled hundreds of millions of people out of poverty along with massive advancement. Nobody can take that away from them. But look at how the system is actually structured, because the math isn't mathing for me. Socialism is supposed to be about ending hierarchy. So why hasn't there been a single woman on the Politburo since 2022? And why is the state now nudging women back toward traditional family roles to fix the birth rate? Then look at how minorities are treated. Uyghurs, Tibetans and Mongolians are being pushed to assimilate...mass detention in Xinjiang, kids sent to state boarding schools, Mandarin replacing their own languages in the classroom. So...that's not liberation of marginalized people or women. That's the opposite. And here's another question to ask yourself...if the system really is that much better than everywhere else, why does it need the Great Firewall and mass surveillance to protect the story? I'm not saying the progress is fake. I'm saying wealth built on top of those hierarchies doesn't lead to socialism. It leads to authoritarian control. Sorry, but my AuDHD pattern recognition says they're full of shit.
2026-10-07 12:31:47
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mssdnmsld
mssdnmsld :
+2000 social credit
2026-10-07 19:53:34
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thelongbox
Mike H :
Ever since I’ve heard of the two assurances and three guarantees, I can’t get it out of my head. That should be the metric by which society is measured.
2026-10-05 22:50:35
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lobsterlord39
lobsterlord39 :
ugh fine I'm moving to china
2026-10-07 19:19:42
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patriciabercowetz3
Patricia Bercowetz :
Are they just a lot smarter than the rest of us.
2026-10-06 10:43:04
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dragonswordmaster3
Sword Master :
People don’t understand that capitalism is an important step into something better. Capitalism isn’t bad in itself it’s bad when it over stays it’s usefulness for the people.
2026-10-06 11:29:32
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buzz1102
buzz1102 :
I once heard that the only reason communism fails is because the capitalist hate the idea of losing profits.
2026-10-06 03:23:21
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user5660281539726
user5660281539726 :
Why be rigid and stick to one system if you can adapt the features of another system and make it work for you.
2026-10-06 12:39:23
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nonsenseandshenanigans
Elisabeth :
I have been to China several tomes in the last 10 years. The last time was last summer. The growth, the cleanliness, the safety…. Yes please. I love China.
2026-10-07 00:27:58
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jmarchette7
jmarchette :
Been to China and I’d live there then here.
2026-10-07 17:48:54
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softfocussunset
where am i :
It’s also authoritarian which is often overlooked in these discussions about socialism/communism. But I guess you can’t really have socialism or communism without authoritarianism anyway
2026-10-07 05:52:26
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shnoody0
Shnoody :
Are there any current cons about China? This sounds phenomenal. Looking for education
2026-10-06 18:30:05
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gnada.n
Gnada.n :
China has accomplished a lot. I do not appreciate their tactics though. Stealing US tech while manufacturing, reverse / re-engineering it a bit, and selling it cheaper. Look at the new Xiaomi Folding phone. Almost an exact replica of the Apple Duo.
2026-10-06 06:02:13
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mtmy7
MTMY :
bad only for greedy people
2026-10-07 06:53:17
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onelastwinter6
🌝 :
"we need to do is develop our economy using the capitalist mode of production.."
2026-10-07 02:02:58
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sanz25424
Sanz :
Did you say it's not possible to have a socialist country....wtf. China is a totalitarian government with a free market economy.
2026-10-07 03:07:50
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rosariafinger94
Logan :
it's also worth noting the interesting reason why China sort of backtracked from socialism to capitalism. in the "normal" series of events, a feudal system is overthrown by the capitalists who install a system designed for them, and then that capitalist system is later overthrown by the people who install a system designed for them (socialism). it happens this way because in order to support society you need the infrastructure and economy created by capitalism. China was a feudal system, and was overthrown by the people not the capitalists. they essentially skipped a step, went "whoopsies" and introduced a form a capitalism designed with the intent to be used for the people so that it could build up that economy to be seamlessly transitioned into socialism rather than overthrown. the goal of this type of capitalism is technically still profits and efficiency, but NEVER at the expense of society. traditional capitalism couldn't care less about society.
2026-10-05 23:44:49
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notanymore99
Nic :
Visited three major cities they are so happy modern and progressive- Shenzhen Shanghai and Beijing beautiful cities happy people and so many choices in products just WOW
2026-10-06 01:58:15
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bph2396
BPH :
In principle, and if our system of government operated as designed, we could also have an efficient economic system that delivers a good standard of living for all Americans. The problem is that our elected representatives do the bidding of the moneyed interests rather than representing the best interests of their constituents. According to Marx America is likely approaching a tipping point into revolution.
2026-10-06 11:47:57
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trollvolta
karlmarxbrother 🛹 :
China declared an end to extreme poverty only by its own national standard, not an end to poverty itself. Millions were lifted out of destitution, but poverty and economic hardship persist, there are no certain conditions that could entertain the notion that poverty will ever end anywhere, at any time.
2026-10-06 14:57:35
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bonniesayers6
Blue :
They are also collectivists instead of individualists. It just makes sense to them to watch out and take care of everyone else.
2026-10-06 23:19:17
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testdepthonthecrapper
Marshall Rayne :
what stops them from going far right? are there any strategies that leave the ideology planted in socialism or democratic socialism?
2026-10-05 15:59:52
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michael.hudson511
MH :
Amazingly, I think it is actually achievable for them.
2026-10-07 03:38:39
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