@eve_wasframed: Replying to @Cowboy MSF #exvangelical #deconstruction #christiantiktok #atheist

Jamie Jo :

He gives you free choice. Would you rather He give you no choice, but makes you do what He wants? Love let's you have that free will.

chrishughes3390 :

No he did not plan for people to sin, but Adam and Eve were weak and brought this all about

Christ under fire :

Death as projected in the Bible is separation, while you think it is ending someone's life it is not, the soul keeps on keeping on, In the physical world your soul separates from the body, spiritual death however is your soul separating from God, sin separates you from God, that is why the wages of sin is death

Rhonda :

Just as a human judge who lets a violent criminal walk free without consequence is considered corrupt rather than merciful, a truly good and holy God cannot simply ignore or excuse evil. True justice requires that moral wrongs have a real accounting. Sin is not just breaking an arbitrary rule on a celestial checklist; it is an assault on goodness, truth, and love, and it inflicts real damage on people and relationships. Because God is the source of all goodness, rebelling against Him damages the very fabric of existence and demands a correction. Even outside of religion, human beings instinctively demand justice when terrible things happen in the world. Christianity argues that this universal moral intuition reflects the standard of a moral Creator: if objective evil exists, there must be an objective standard of goodness, and therefore, a reckoning for wrongdoing. While sin demands a penalty, Christianity emphasizes that God did not leave humanity to face that punishment alone. Instead of sweeping evil under the rug or leaving us to pay the ultimate price, God stepped into human history in Jesus Christ to absorb the penalty of sin Himself. Authentic love and moral agency require the genuine freedom to choose. God did not desire sin, but creating humans capable of love inherently meant creating beings with the capacity for rebellion; blaming God for human choice is viewed as confusing freedom with coercion. Spiritual death is not as an arbitrary penalty or torture device invented by God, but as the natural, logical consequence of turning away from God, much like stepping away from the sun results in cold and darkness.

Chrystin Robinson :

Thank you for sharing this ❤️The whole religion is a sin.

JonJon_Williams :

DID YOU KNOW?? Japan officially recognizes certain forms of religious coercion and fear-based religious practices as psychological abuse, particularly when children are involved. Japan has taken steps to address what is sometimes called religious abuse—situations where religious beliefs are used to intimidate, manipulate, threaten, or psychologically control someone. Examples include: Threats of hell or divine punishment: Telling children they will go to hell or suffer supernatural punishment unless they obey religious teachings. Fear-based control: Using religious beliefs to create extreme fear, guilt, or anxiety. Forced religious participation:Coercing children into religious activities through threats or intimidation. Religious isolation: Restricting children's relationships, education, or opportunities because of religious rules. Importantly, Japan distinguishes between teaching religious beliefs and using those beliefs to psychologically harm or control children. When did Japan establish this policy? On December 27, 2022, Japan's Ministry of Health, Labour and Welfare issued official guidance explaining how religiously motivated conduct can qualify as child abuse under existing Japanese law.

jonfrano :

Amazing that God still blesses you despite the way you treat Him. That’s love.

RSO6925 :

The devil has a HUGE roll in this and man was given free will so it’s about Eternal life

Suedonim :

Why do they believe their god is alive if the punishment for sin is death when he sins consistently in their own bible.

Erica :

My big question is how can an all powerful god only have one son? The “sacrifice” is really diminished when you realize that he could create 100 Jesus-equivalents every day, no sweat. They could all wander around doing miracles and helping people and it would be way better than the ‘god works in mysterious ways’ they always spout off

T I K T O K T O M T O M :

Exactly what was forgiven if you can still end up in hell forever? How is this better? Before Christ’s “sacrifice” was everyone going to hell no matter what?

Ken Gingrich :

your destiny is in your hands

Beebo :

And according to Paul God “imprisoned us in disobedience” in the first place

user9241569634650 :

The answers will not be found on TikTok. Scholars have been wrestling with these questions for centuries.

Jen :

Any “why” question they are trained to respond with well he’s all knowing and we don’t understand his way but he’s in control so we don’t need to think or worry about that - just have faith. 😐

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qqzoozoo :

Death. Death I'm cool with. Eternal torture.. nah.

Alfie the cockatiel :

Basic logic and common sense!

ReadingIntoIt :

IU Reno :

A catch-22! We are only human, sinning, thus salvation for those sins! Day 1: Origin Sin! Can’t seem to get ahead when one is minus one, day one!

wokeguy9999 :

But “He” made us sinful. He’s responsible for the “sin “.

kittiesinredwoods :

Some churches do not focus on this. And others make this extremely important. They also condemn homosexuality, and abortion and say women are to be submissive to their husbands. Churches are not all alike.

Dödlen 🤩 :

It all began with the most important bonkers story, the one about Adam & Eve

greasy John Denver :

Death is necessary because there must punishment for doing wrong to the highest good and authority of the universe. Sure He created everything, as is His right. To deny God is to take away the foundation of reality.

brandonhays671 :

humans create moral laws that punish people for breaking the law they created. humans do it on the earth to create societies we can all live in and enjoy. So it sounds to me God does the same thing. If you don’t abide by His rules for life you get cut off from participating in life. To be honest I am sure it isn’t what you’re saying but it sounds like you are saying people should do whatever they want in this life and no one should govern us. People want to steal, no problem, because humans should have never created a system in the first place that would pass any kind of judgment on anyone for any reason. To me it sounds unreasonable for God not to have rules. Humans do. The death penalty is forever being cut off from enjoying life on this earth. It makes sense that God does similar to be honest