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skinnerrrr :
i only ever got one question🤣 how tf u hold somebody brainwashed accountable!!
2026-10-15 20:14:06
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Eve!🦢 :
my problem is when they get mad at the other bot characters for not taking lizzies shit
2026-10-19 08:33:34
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alirae146 :
Lizzie is one of the most interesting & complex characters I have read about in years and unfortunately this fandom lacks the nuance to have actual discussions about her. It’s either she’s an evil mean girl villain or she’s done nothing wrong both of those erase the actual complexities of her character
2026-10-15 21:04:06
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MIA 📖🐉🧚♀️ :
And I think people forget THEY ARE KIDS!?!!!? Dealing with all this?!?!
2026-10-16 05:52:53
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sophia :
OMF when they’re like “so and so should’ve been meaner” 😭😭😭.. but you hate lizzie for dishing it back
2026-10-15 19:26:33
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sarah :
She was literally BRAINWASHED and MANIPULATED for most of her life and people will genuinely STILL not give her any compassion
2026-10-17 18:48:25
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Sav🎀 :
THANK YOU! I hate the “you can’t excuse her actions because of her trauma” DID WE NOT READ THE SAME BOOK? I get why the characters hate her but we, as readers, have the full narrative, so how can you hate her? They’re refusing to acknowledge her past and emphasise. SHE’S BEEN BRAINWASHED AND MANIPULATED SINCE SHE WAS FIVE YEARS OLD. I’ll defend this girl forever and the people who continue hating her don’t have enough empathy.
2026-10-16 17:57:49
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BusyAllyBee🐝 :
Then they’ll actually excuse everyone else’s actions and call them perfect all while saying this about Liz
2026-10-16 11:21:50
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lovely_likliza :
That shows me ppl just don’t like her they don’t care abt logic at all I believe they do realize her mentality plays a big part in it but they refused to acknowledge that bc in their mind she’s the villain … see what I’ve realized is that for some ppl they need to blame someone they need to “ hold someone accountable” that’s not this serious if you need a morally correct character try a cowboy romance maybe not teens trying to figure out life and work through they’re issues as they go
2026-10-15 19:29:39
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areti :
and you’ll never catch anyone saying this line about any other bot character.it seems that only lizzie can’t be “excused”.
2026-10-16 03:05:12
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･ﾟ🤍𝓳𝓮𝓼𝓼𝓲𝓬𝓪🤍 ﾟ･ :
the thing that annoys me is when lizzie fans then go and hold joey accountable for how he treated aoife like he didn’t have serious mental issues and was brainwashed as well😭
2026-10-18 01:52:30
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📚 :
Also lizzie has a hard time separating what’s real or not. Hearing Claire say that Gibsie was taped would’ve made her question her own reality. As far as she knew up until this point it was her sister, not her or Gibsie. She had a realisation in r10 about mark being the monster but from what I remember she stops believing it again or maybe I’m confused. But either way, knowing it happened to Gibsie too would have upset,confused, horrified and altered her reality. No one’s saying things that Lizzie has said or done is okay but we have to realise that it’s also apart of her BPD and she doesn’t know everything we know. Yes I think apologies should be made but I truly believe she will make them.
2026-10-16 10:07:27
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.Milinoï. kings. :
to them mental health matters until its anger and they only see the anger and never the struggles
2026-10-16 13:50:09
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No_name 🐸 :
They are quick to point her out and paint her as the villain that they really forget to understand her and the trauma that she has been through.
2026-10-15 20:25:55
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s ໒꒱ :
the saying is taken way too far, because while it is true, when it’s used to completely disregard a person’s trauma and have no empathy for that person, it’s an issue
2026-10-16 09:43:10
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RIRI 🧸 :
for someone who was as brainwashed as her she was never really that mean people want her to be a perfect victim like Shannon and gibsie while she's more like joey people love joey but hate on her constantly
2026-10-17 22:02:05
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M :
Matter of fact (not an excuse) she has been diagnosed with this illness since a young age, and on top of that lots of traumas so it's kind of sad how people don't see it in the way some of us do.
2026-10-16 21:30:38
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Stine :
People love to pretend to forget that mentally ill means mentally different
2026-10-16 11:07:40
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freya 📖 ⋆˙⟡ :
you’ve explained this so perfectly, i absolutely love the way you hold yourself and speak so perfectly about this!!
2026-10-16 19:49:54
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gaia :
i can understand your point. my only problem is that the majority of lizzie’s supporters start with the claim that she has experienced such horrible things that, from her perspective, everything she does is forgivable. i think that’s a problematic way to approach her relationships with her friends and her experience with mental illness, because it inevitably turns into a comparison between her story (which is horrible, ofc) and everyone else’s, while these same people keep saying “don’t compare traumas”, which is exactly what they’re doing! not to mention that most of the fandom hates claire for doing essentially the same thing hugh did to lizzie, so c’mon! my personal opinion is that if the argument is “i understand her trauma, i think it affected her life and her choices, but i can still think critically about her behaviour”, then i can agree with that. but if the argument is “you can’t dislike her because of her behaviour, because she’s been through so much worse than the other characters, and if you do dislike her, you’re being mean, you’re letting mark win, you’re a misogynist” (along with all the other baseless accusations people keep making in their tiktoks), then no, i can’t agree with that. i don’t want to start any fight and i apologise if it seemed, i understand and partially agree with you, but i think it’s still necessary to keep saying that mental illness it’s not an excuse.
2026-10-16 10:21:55
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lucinda💓📚 :
I genuinely don't understand after being in every single one of the core 10s brains (except katie and patrick) how ppl can still hate on lizzie or hughie or shannon it just doesnt make sense to me
2026-10-16 20:41:35
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evie :
YESSSS you couldn’t have said it better
2026-10-16 01:07:58
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dani💞📖 :
thank youuu.
2026-10-16 12:42:30
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olivia !! :
OMGG u worded it so perfectly yes 😭😭
2026-10-16 09:36:42
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Elli :
omggg i love you this is perfect, hopefully they don’t come to you
2026-10-16 02:05:05
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