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taha𖣂𒉭 :

it's actually an initiator job

Michael :

It’s either a job for gekko or controllers or someone who’s close to ult

Espii :

Brother how did this turn into a discussion about who carries spike, point of the video is how to deal with a toxic guy 😔

BellsHQ | Twitch Streamer :

As a senti main the amount of toxic ppl I’ve experienced being toxic because I didn’t take spike is baffling 😭

eden :

His shit was obsidian

ricecrisbie :

ini’s job, pro players have talked about this lol

Diverting :

Homie only had 3 more kills and was acting like a jerk 😭😭. Also as a initiator main it is not our job to plant spike but help get on and retake site

shesewlovely :

I literally harass them back and act like I’m into the harassment and they get so confused and stop also 😭

Harith :

from haters to lovers

fanya // seeing enhypen 2027🪷 :

actually clove was right

Horizon :

ive been immortal consistently and dont care i will die on the hill of smokes should carry bomb (im a smokes main) i personally dont mind carrying the bomb

m :

hes so rude

mini ♡ :

It’s usually initiators job. You initiate site for entry, without actually getting in it. Then when duelists entry off your util, you follow them and plant. A senti will lurk or lock down site post plant, and a controller will stay back to smoke site, and then continue staying mostly out of site to resmoke when needed. A controller cannot take the risk of dying on site or while planting, cause then smokes are gone.

in your team it is really your job you basically playing with 4 duelists. inis ult the most useful and unless anyone else is close to ukt and they WANT TO plant it is your job to take it and plant

Franxx Ocean :

Clove is right, but he’s not in the right

- :

almost diamond and higher people mostly use the initiator to carry spikes. there are exceptions for specific situations like sage & phoenix maybe if ur optimizing ur res, but overall, initiator just have lesser job to do other than reconing/flashing/mollying site, unlike other roles like duelist jn which you have to entry, some sentinels need to be in a certain range for their trip to not deactivate (if theyre not flanking ofc), same thing with smokers, some need to stand on certain spots to put their smokes

karolciav12_xyz :

Yeah so clove was right with the spike

Dumbling🌸 :

Initiator ults are usually stronger so they need the ult points from planting. Sentinels plan for post plant meanwhile, while the entries clean up the site

Jonathan :

I was always told it was the controller’s job to carry spike, which in this case would’ve been Clove

goob :

i wish i could be this unbothered 😭 i just get so flustered trying to defend myself in a toxic lobby

♡Alex :

It's not the initiator job 😭 Like you're telling me you can't just plant after smoking? It's not like you have to flash, or dog, or heal... Same with sentinels This might be just my opinion but duelist and initiator should not be the ones planting by default, only if they need it for orb or if there's specific situations

zymfoo :

Bomb is for no specific role. It is good to communicate it, and talk on who should plant it cause in the end it’s a team based game, but if it’s immediate bickering on both sides then might as well stay off comp and try and enjoy your time in other game modes. Other than that, funny vid lol

Maya Rae :

i thought it's sentis job to plant 😭

Perated :

Definitely not an initiator job, maybe in low elo it is, but controllers take spike typically. Need initiators and duelists to fight for space past just the site can’t have em stop and plant bomb so lil bro with smokes can just sit still and hold an angle