@meechski: Is Elizabeth Holmes the greatest manipulator of all time? Here’s a full discussion trying to work through it, Let me know what you think #ElizabethHolmes #NathanFielder #Documentary #A24

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kathrynburz
Kathryn || ⭐️💫 :
Amanda functions as a surrogate for the audience, confronting Nathan with the uncomfortable possibility that he, too, has fallen for the very illusion he’s attempting to unravel. so insanely good, emotional rollercoaster.
2026-10-17 11:28:51
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ehsankia
Ehsan Kia :
the moment he mentioned kirk, it all clicked
2026-10-17 07:06:50
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coreymoyer5
coreymoyer5 :
the scene when Billy says “i know how you’re feeling” and Nathan just goes “no you don’t” was soooo good. prob the biggest laugh from the entire theater during the whole movie
2026-10-17 16:11:38
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ronniekl
Ronnie :
the dinner scene was one of the best pieces of media to come out of this. i audibly gasped so so loudly
2026-10-17 04:52:27
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airpbj
airpbj :
This film begs the question: do narcissists attract each other? And what happens when two autistic people lock eyes, do we get stuck in an infinite time loop?
2026-10-17 11:07:46
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carsongraham25
carson rebecca :
Amanda is so good in it because she is the one who finally validates the way that the audience is feeling about billy and finally confronts him and it was so satisfying as someone watching
2026-10-17 15:11:35
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costumechick
LuluSugarbee :
What we debated for so long was, why did her dad blurt out, that she was SA'd in college? Then didn't elaborate at all. Like, does her dad think that's why she is the way she is? Did she tell him to mention it to agrner sympathy? It felt so out of nowhere.
2026-10-17 13:40:05
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kittymother810
KM :
I think she was manipulated by Sunny and now she’s being manipulated by Billy.
2026-10-18 09:56:38
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zissoubuns
zissoubuns :
I cannot figure out if I have been manipulated by the movie. We seen everything and nothing at all.
2026-10-17 03:53:43
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millyhousend
millyhousend :
Billy and Elizabeth were like a 2 person cult where both were the leader and both were the victim
2026-10-17 23:39:07
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gkg610
Gkg610 :
She just wants him to THINK she doesn’t understands who’s on first
2026-10-17 03:05:00
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user384223170
Beth S. :
I walked away with the question - is she the manipulator or does she enjoy being manipulated?
2026-10-17 12:23:50
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trriinityy
trin 𖦹✮⋆˙🦋🦌✨ :
I feel like someone could argue, sure, she SOMEHOW didn’t understand the nuances of the Who’s on First skit, but I knew she was truly BS’ing us when he asked her if she’s ever lied in her LIFE…and she’s like I don’t know….maybe….maybe not…. and Nathan is like… NEVER ??!!!
2026-10-17 06:48:46
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jes5icakateog
Jessica :
The friggin AI hologram and Billy’s flippancy about the deepfake things that could be done with it 😳😳😳
2026-10-17 06:01:39
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jamesphillips3333
Jk uh fdimvdiinbd :
At the end of the movie I’m also wondering if the tension between Billy and Nathan was in part built off of jealousy between the two of them. This is so incredibly dense
2026-10-17 22:13:13
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lifeofafyfe
LifeOfaFyfe :
She definitely is not innocent herself but Billy is beyond manipulative and scary. I believe he persuaded her to not take a plea deal and go to prison for 11 years AWAY from her children so that he could use her image to sell his product without her having any say in it. Because he believes he's morally superior
2026-10-17 20:46:17
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joshfullmer
Josh :
Did Elizabeth say “It” or “Something”? Did Nathan really remember?
2026-10-18 04:51:37
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zekespeaks94
ZekeSpeaks :
This is the best movie I’ve seen in a long time
2026-10-17 21:45:45
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lalalatik2
lalalatik2 :
I haven’t watched it yet but she lied so much about her tech working at theranos that she literally convinced herself she was telling the truth. So I think she genuinely doesn’t think she did anything wrong because she deluded herself and everyone else so much.
2026-10-17 13:28:07
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sierraayerhead
sierra :
Also, Elizabeth is 42 and Billy is 33
2026-10-17 06:07:26
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amy_alzyyy14
amy_alzyyy14 :
Is she being manipulated or is she the manipulator? Is she a sociopath/psychopath or is she on the spectrum?
2026-10-18 02:37:19
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thenerdbae
Thenerdbae :
Nathan was falling in love
2026-10-17 14:10:38
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kathanola
kathanola :
Wait I thought that was Billy in the water
2026-10-18 00:54:21
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nickstarrmusic
Nick :
After sleeping on it I really think it’s both—she does genuinely think and communicate in a way that’s unlike most people… but she takes advantage of that to manipulate them.
2026-10-17 22:18:32
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sandradee1042
Sandra :
I think she's a sociopath
2026-10-17 14:03:04
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