Someone said Nathan is used to recognizing overt male narcissists (like her husband) but it takes a woman to see the covert female narcissists that EH is and I think there’s a lot of truth in that
2026-10-19 16:15:22
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Megan :
Okay, I need somebody to help me.. When they show the swimming in the ocean clip earlier on, we’re meant to believe that’s Nathan and Amanda right? And then the reveal is that it was actually Elizabeth the whole time.
2026-10-19 17:54:28
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LegalHarpyEagle :
to be fair, he does pretty clearly say that he was willing to break that rule if she wanted. interesting that even this language gets muddled in conversations about the movie.
2026-10-19 16:13:41
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Lisa Pimpson :
i took it as amanda was in her feelings because she had just been confronted with elizabeth’s feelings of disgust towards her for doing the show, and nathan wasn’t outright disavowing that sentiment either. so amanda suddenly was seeing her in a more negative light
2026-10-19 17:11:37
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bbgun :
And that scene where he was saying goodbye to her before she went to jail.... I was literally expecting one of them to lean in for a kiss!
2026-10-20 06:16:09
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Morgan Davidson :
Did my brain make it up or did I see Elizabeth reach for Nathan’s hand while they were in the water?
2026-10-19 21:06:23
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ParliamentDance :
He never says he hates water. He never says he will not be doing that. He only says he isn’t comfortable/doesn’t like cold water. He never told her no. We all assumed it was a no.
2026-10-20 10:22:05
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Ughoverit :
I think her SA made her so codependent she kinda of LIKES being manipulated- she works with billy (and sunny for that matter) to achieve whatever he wants
2026-10-19 17:46:04
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nat doll :
huh i always knew he’d get in the water with her. that was not a big gotcha moment for me at all
2026-10-20 01:53:19
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Michael :
Well said!
2026-10-20 01:25:34
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Betty :
He did say he might could break the rule. when he said it made one think he was talking about the rule of avoiding cold water, but he could have been telling us he was breaking any rule
2026-10-19 21:26:56
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Your Daily Writing Prompt :
Yes! And it’s also a brilliant example of the film showing us how you can manipulate our perception by what you choose to show and not show. That clip changes so much about how we view EVERYTHING we just saw. This is what you’re saying, but I just think it’s also the filmmakers saying THIS is who WE are. So many layers!!
2026-10-20 05:10:33
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Noneya :
I didn’t read this as she manipulated him into the water, but as you can’t trust what people say. But also, they’re being several interpretations is probably the point.
2026-10-20 02:40:17
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Finn Hogan :
didn’t even peep that, that makes it even more genius to me. thank you for this
2026-10-19 21:12:48
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Alt Disney :
it's the same thing that happens at the end of season 1 of the rehearsal. in the last scene of that season he tells the kid he's his dad. it's a nod to not only discovering how others react in a situation, but how he does himself. the difference is he's telling the audience I too have fallen for the manipulation I was trying to document.
2026-10-19 23:39:10
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joshevoy870 :
a subtle but brilliant scene
2026-10-19 16:14:11
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Miri_am333 :
Yes but I really think he was leaning into for the plot. He like I know what your doing but I want to see where it going. Which absolutely insane to think that even when we know we are being deceived we still going along with it. So at that point arent they still getting what they want.
2026-10-19 16:52:10
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nabeel.talks.story :
She’s a siren!
2026-10-19 17:38:44
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Sara :
I had read everything about her prior to the movie (book, podcasts etc)…I never felt sympathy for her in the movie but I did for a moment wonder if she was mentally not well. And then post 24 hours from seeing it, I’m back to believing she was/is incredibly brilliant and full on consciously manipulated the entire time.
2026-10-19 18:07:20
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ponderingfish :
I couldn’t tell if it was him at the end in the ocean. Ahhhh I need to see it again.
2026-10-20 00:13:31
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angelicatalan :
This is such a great hot take!!!!
2026-10-20 13:08:40
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sabeke21 :
She is 100% the mastermind of all of this. She’s playing the doe-eyed fawn now, just like she played the deep voice CEO for a decade before. But ultimately she got him to go swimming with her and believe her, just like Billy gave us his sole rights to a percentage of the profits.
2026-10-19 16:17:02
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Wet_stinky :
The more I’ve thought about it, the more I’m convinced she is totally aware of what she’s doing and had firmly created a new character for herself. Wildly calculated. Nothing was an accident.
2026-10-19 18:00:34
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morningsinjune :
Oh snap I thought that was Billy and her in the ocean at the end of
2026-10-19 17:28:10
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