@coach_mundy_: I never think to pull with my hands. Where you may end up or what it will look like will vary tho. Different limb lengths, some may be skinny, some may be fat, etc. But regardless, it’s not about how far you can pull. Read that again. - For lats, just think elbow to hips. And keep armpits down. For pronated-grip rows, just think pull apart and back. - When you’re having issues, just look at where your upper arm is at. It’ll also help you fix your setup