@jlilolme1: Ice on wings changes the wings shape , and feels like you trying to fly in soup. Auto pilot doesn’t work in turbulence it’s impossible to get a plane out of nose dive at that speed. These poor people suffered in terror on the way down so stop with the conspiracies. These were real people in a real airplane! WATCH SNACK PACK FOR FULL DISCUSSION
FROM OTHER VIDEO: Pilot here. Icing and moderate turbulence lead to a phenomenon called Mach tuck. It is common in Learjet 60’s and older Learjet’s. Essentially, you exceed the maximum airspeed at altitude and it is unrecoverable to the point that you continue to speed up while not being able to produce lift with your wings. Further description: (your coefficient of lift eventually moves too far behind the wing making it impossible to produce lift, this causes the aircraft to lose altitude like a falling dart, in turn gaining airspeed and crashing. All Pilots are aware of this, some just push too close to the maximum speed threshold, and when you experience clear air turbulence or other factors like icing that would push you too far past the maximum speed threshold without the capability to control the wing normally, this happens. Wrap up: icing changes the shape of the wing critically and adds weight to plane (double whammy, but mainly airflow issue over the wing), Learjets are vulnerable to over speed situations because of the type of wing is small, sleek, and unforgiving in the name of efficiency and performance, mix all of that together with moderate turbulence which can fluctuate your airspeed, this causes the aircraft to enter Mach tuck over speed condition. The result is a lawn dart scenario that you see here. Very sad.
2026-11-02 12:23:51
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username_unknown :
why was she flying directly into the center of a storm in the first place
2026-11-02 13:40:35
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Joshisup209 :
Would a commercial plan be able to stabilize ?
2026-11-02 13:17:35
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🇺🇸Seven🇺🇸 :
She wasn’t the pilot in control. She was the co pilot communicating
2026-11-02 10:09:02
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WorstWalmartGreeter :
Let’s make sure to include the difference the plane model makes in these conditions. A larger commercial jet has a much larger “envelope” and it wouldn’t be difficult for a pilot to have gotten through this in a 747. This type of jet was designed with proportionately smaller wings, making it a worse option than other aircraft of similar size in these conditions.
2026-11-02 11:31:47
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juri :
I'm not a pilot, but why do these small jets fly higher than commercial jets if most of them crash or freeze over? It doesn't make sense to go higher where there's thinner air and the wings are already frozen; it would make more sense to go lower or look for an emergency landing if you're already frosted over or your wings are frozen. I don't get it.
2026-11-02 10:19:42
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quitsa :
Sounds like this crash due to pilot error
2026-11-02 13:43:13
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alex94130505 :
So what was the proper move ? Or was this not avoidable
2026-11-02 10:53:30
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Andrew L :
Why can’t these jets glide if they lose power?
2026-11-02 11:24:16
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Mightywhiteyy :
Denzel is would have landed it
2026-11-02 12:38:14
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💊BiRtH💊 :
she was the co pilot
2026-11-02 09:30:29
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appleuser9929432 :
Minus 40 in south Florida?? It was 85 here yesterday , bs ! Then every little jet would fall up north daily !
2026-11-02 12:36:30
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anon45456788 :
Someone said they increased their altitude too quickly and that’s what caused the damage to the plane
2026-11-02 10:24:12
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Brogie Sullivan :
Was there anything they could do after they started free falling to regain control?
2026-11-02 11:31:18
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ArmyMedic :
She hit the ground at 400mph... just shy of top speed at altitude of 450mph.... this is obviously an icing issue and failure to identify
2026-11-02 12:22:28
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🛒 Marta TT Shop Affiliate :
So sad
2026-11-02 05:51:59
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Immortal 👑 :
don't cockpits have warning signals going off in an emergency? never heard any noises and how did she speak so clearly descending at that speed?
2026-11-02 13:06:04
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George935 :
Mechanical or pilot error as this is a Mach tuck - newer jets I thought had safety equipment to lift the tail - will be interesting to get experts to explain and confirm if possible
2026-11-02 13:02:03
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RitaV 🎋🐯🦀👩🏻⚖️ :
could she have lowered altitude where its warmer from icing?
2026-11-02 12:43:25
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BadKarma2020 :
The T wing was gone. Not sure if it happened in the dive or if it caused the dive.
2026-11-02 11:25:52
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rr111792 :
Was she flying and talking ?
2026-11-02 12:44:27
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JUDY_Otz :
Was she the co pilot or main pilot?
2026-11-02 12:13:31
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middletowndreams :
Was it hopeless once they lost control or was it possible to recover control?
2026-11-02 12:28:02
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Quell :
if this is such a common issue with these learjets especially the learjet 60, why the fuck are they allowed in the air..
2026-11-02 13:23:06
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Brandon :
-47c?
2026-11-02 08:37:51
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