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A banana :
So I am a partner at a big law firm (not Weil) and I agree the junior/midlevels do not understand how to work in a way that supports a book of business (i.e. if my client wants a call on Christmas Day, I don’t get to say no). I don’t think that’s why Weil failed (it’s because people who DO give up their X-mas want to get paid $20m instead of $10m (even if the “culture” at the $10m firm is “better”).
2026-11-02 18:04:29
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ValCambronne :
Hmm as an attorney, I think you’re missing some context on how big law firms work. How many books are inherited by senior associates and then further cultivated etc. But regardless, many of the financial incentives that supported the motivation now partners had in their late twenties and early thirties do not exist for us. My big law friends are looking at million dollar homes as “starter homes.” The system is broken.
2026-11-02 21:19:16
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Irish American Jew :
Sorry but not wanting to work 80 hours a week has nothing to do with “ great Work ethic”
2026-11-02 15:47:37
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Ericka :
Life is getting too expensive, and the smoke & mirrors in our current society are coming down. If the rewards don't outweigh the costs (financial incentives, work/life balance, culture), it's not worth it for the next generation.
2026-11-02 15:32:04
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🫶🏼 :
As a lawyer in my 20s that's a new attorney, I completely agree. I've been asking my firm for training on client development and keep getting, "don't worry about that right now." BUT I think this is the perfect time to train, when I don't need to worry about bringing in business. What advice would you give to find training opportunities for this?
2026-11-02 16:42:04
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Colombianlina :
What is a rainmaker in law firms?
2026-11-02 16:04:45
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AlyssaWaine :
Damn, they realized faster than I did that hard work isn’t rewarded. 👏🏻 Life is really more about the life and not about the work. Money isn’t everything. Budget well. Drive an older car, find love and happiness, spend time with your loved ones, be home with your kids. 🥰
2026-11-02 18:33:05
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AbsolutelyNot :
Please hire millennials. Please 😏
2026-11-02 20:15:10
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Samantha Dawson :
I think this is in every line of business
2026-11-02 22:12:24
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Holly Haeseler :
Realest take on this issue I’ve seen yet!
2026-11-02 15:24:30
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Ejiro :
100%. We are seeing this across other industries too. You almost need a different strategy and model to get those outcomes.
2026-11-02 13:10:43
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.Katie. :
I think it has to do with retaining senior talent. I’m a senior associate in big law, and before I landed at my current firm the revolving door was almost all senior associates, junior partners, or partners. If you don’t make it worth it for us to sacrifice a big chunk of our personal life for 60-80 hr work weeks, we’re gonna leave. The number of calls I get from recruiters a week to leave with my experience level (just about 10 years) is INSANE.
2026-11-02 17:57:03
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EK :
They’re too young rn to even be at that level. They need training and rewards
2026-11-03 02:03:20
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Kyia Lee :
I was raised with entrepreneurs as parents and I helped them scale properties into bringing 6 figures in each year yet I'm still having a hard time breaking into big law especially as a 2L
2026-11-03 08:22:28
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pjmcnultysr :
Training? I worked at BigLaw for 6 years and never received an hour of training on how to win business or build a book.And I'm old now, so "work life balance" wasn't really a thing yet.
2026-11-03 21:42:01
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Rosie :
I don’t really see what this has to do with what happened to Weil? Did you read the bloomberg law article? No one expected any gen z associate to replace the big partners who left…
2026-11-02 15:40:08
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Bellanella :
Yawn. Everyone wants to blame the jr associates for everything. The boomers took their book of business and went where the money was. Point blank period.
2026-11-02 20:38:53
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theshow :
There aren't gen z rainmakers when they're still junior associates... that isn't how the system works. My gen z associates work really hard and are very smart, and by the time they're 40/45/50 the business relationships they're building now with their contemporaries will grow as their cohort gets more senior and becomes decision makers. 13 years in biglaw, and my most successful partners have the deadly combo of being whipsmart, kind team managers and actual humans who socialize comfortably with in-house counsel as longtime friends.
2026-11-02 14:56:56
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amyamy5445 :
Useless take. No law firm thinks a 26 year old will become a rainmaker. Those guys are all like 50 and it’s one out like 100 associates who start who move into that type of role.
2026-11-02 14:30:34
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AF :
I’m not an attorney but am a director on the business side of a large firm and my entire job is working with our rainmakers on their key client relationships. I’m lucky to be in many leadership meetings. The challenge isn’t Gen Z, because we already know they’re not of the same biz dev caliber - sales professionals will make up that gap eventually. The real challenge appears to be how we maintain an old school firm culture where people feel like loyalty matters, so that when you hit a snag as a firm, your people don’t immediately jump ship, causing a bank run. And then the second challenge is ensuring there isn’t such disparity between the top rainmakers’ books of business and everyone else, which can be done by institutionalizing clients - only achieved with a comp system that rewards collaboration and cross selling. We need clients to be more loyal to firms than individual attorneys, making it harder for attorneys and their small teams to lateral out and take it all. That’s my perspective from many convos about this issue and spending 14 years in a very relevant role.
2026-11-02 14:58:01
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Average Joe :
The industry will evolve to small business attorneys away from large law firms over the next decade
2026-11-02 14:26:57
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AJS272727 :
You don’t need 98% of them to be rainmakers. You only need 2% of them to grow into the role. And there will always be 2% who are just killers, no matter the generation. The others either eventually self select out or find a clever way to eat from what the 2% provide and stay busy.
2026-11-02 19:57:07
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501870 :
Genz has watched us work ourselves to death for little pay. They aren’t here for it. 🤷♀️
2026-11-02 19:01:52
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Rh47h2000 :
Big firms are getting as many résumés as they ever did. Plenty of people are happy to sign up for $225K straight of law school, $400k 6-7 years later, and some will chase the chance to make millions like people always have and end up doing so.
2026-11-02 16:14:25
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koala :
I’ve only heard of one person who made big money barely working. They wrote a short hit book. Very rare. Everyone I know with money did the hours
2026-11-03 01:41:12
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