@lunaa29844: NOT CONFIRMED YET but if this is true they actually suck and tills character is now purely around mizi #alienstage #alnst #ivantill #ivanalienstage #tillalienstage

m1e1l1o1d1y he/him :

when in scars till say he's feelings towards mizi still remains it doesn't mean romantic ones till said he's love for mizi was already gone in one of the comics, in the mvl commentary it mentions that the affect till received from mizi brought back memories of the affection he got from he's mother so, tills platonic love for mizi still remains because her love felt like the love from he's mother, also in the commentary it says till wondered how things would've played out if they understand love and the word "family", this comes back to tills feelings towards mizi if he understood family and what different types of love were like would he still have gotten romantic feelings for mizi, would he and i can be able to deepen there relationship if they understood the true meaning of love, would things played out the way he views them now, that he's been able to process everything, although till doesn't regret loving mizi or not being able to truly understand he's relationship with ivan, he accepts those experiences and accepts the past, because in the end, those experiences give him a glimpse of different kinds of love and, now that till understand all these different ways to love someone, he chooses to teach the kids of an alternate garden

Luna :

THERES ALSO APPARENTLY NO MENTION OF TILL IN PARATISE

mizilover :

ngl im pretty sure vivimeng wanted ivantill to be one sided all along 😭

𝓜𝓲𝓻𝔂𝓪𝓶 𓆝 𓆟 𓆞 :

You know what? I'm going to play dumb and keep thinking the most logical thing: MVL for Mizi and for Ivan too, and Scars for Ivan.That's it, and nobody's going to get me out of here, not even the creators and their questionable writing.

ty!! :

mvl is abt mizi but only because it’s from the time before ivan even joined anakt! till didnt know ivan yet nor did the others since he wasnt there yet. mvl is also technically abt mizi because of the time mizi saw till wounded and bruised from urak’s abuse and has cried with till. grieving and acknowledging his pain which caused him to feel a sense of motherly love which he has felt when he was still with his mother. till was a lonely abused kid, mizi was the first and only person to ever show compassion and acknowledgment for him, till only ever knew the safe love he had felt with io, which caused him to mistake his feelings for “love”. but as he grew older he realized and stated himself that it was only childish . He mostly idolized mizi. And even so he never tried getting closer to her. he kept his dista and let himself view mizi as the walking embodiment of “safe love” even tho it was just pure kindness. lets remember they’re all wounded kids in a bad environment. (All stated in the commentary book)

.✦ ݁˖ ⸝⸝.ᐟ⋆ 𝔅𝔩𝔦𝔰𝔰 ⊹ ࣪ ˖ :

I don’t like to minimize Till’s character because I think he is a lot more than just ‘Mizi’s biggest fan’ but it feels like the narrative has literally been pushed sm. Like atp till is barely his own character in the story, he is literally portrayed as someone who has the fattest crush on Mizi and is her biggest fan in EVERY song there is. Yes, we do have comics and stuff that shows his growth after, but let’s be honest Till is still heavily portrayed as “Mizi’s super big fan” in almost every comic to a point where you can’t even blame the people that portray Till fully as “Mizi’s crush” because it’s literally all that is shown..And I hate the fact that it’s supposed to be doomed yes, but they couldn’t even make it cannon in the other AU..So basically, MiziSua are the main characters/main tropes, Hyuluka are barely portrayed but they’re cannon and still love each other, and Ivantill is ‘doomed’ but they’re both almost not their own characters..especially Till. Like Till is used as Mizi’s background character literally.

Hiro :

they need to be trolling cause wdym scars is about mizi💀💀

੭      ֹ   ო𝘪kᥲ       🦇𓏼 :

like WDYM there's no mention of till in parasite and scars is supposedly about mizi???

︎ :

Well realistically it makes no sense for Scars to be for Mizi 😭 especially since there’s a whole comic where Till finally accepted his feelings for Ivan AND counts Mizi as his family and not a love interest. As for mi Vida loca idk it makes more sense to be for Ivan but it could be half for Mizi and half for Ivan like some fans theorised

Gwen :

mvl was so obviously half about mizi and half about Ivan to me i don't understand 😭💔

⋆˚𝜗𝑻𝒊𝒍𝒍_𝑻𝒉𝒆_𝑬𝒏𝒅𝜚˚⋆ :

I can understand Mi Vida loca but scars and parasite?? but parasite litterly said "unknown till the end" How does it not mention till?? this has to be fake. also in scars there many reference to round 6 and parasite.

. 𝓿ix ᢉ𐭩 𝓲van :

i will actually crashout if this is true omg

Angel :

I mean, why would they change his obsession over mizi

Pineapple🕊️🐀/🎨🏍️/🏢⬇️ :

Idc bro scars is abt Ivan to me

Jaden :

Love how even non shippers are confused and mad about this, for once shippers x non shippers agree on something

⁺ 𖦹dav ִ ☆゙ ۫ :

MVL IS ENTIRELY ABOUT MIZI?? IM SO MAD

˙𐃷˙ | globe gummies,sarang !! :

i hope these rumors are false 😭😭

Yuki ꣑ৎ :

?? Are we serious??😅

xixjctxdzu :

Where does these coments come from? (No discord, I'm just lost)

ty!! :

scars on the other hand is abt them all. about wounded children trying to love and live in the only ways they knew how to. Its abt guilt and regret for how things ended because of their environment. bcs they didnt have the real meaning ir knowledge of family and safety. bcs they loved despite their dehumanization but it also affected how they showed their love or even didnt show it at all and abt sm more. How “they wanted to protect one another, but they didn't know how and how they ended up leaving the deepest wounds on the people closest to them.” Its abt till’s mature realization. his feelings. but its also obv that its abt ivan especially since ivan has been mentioned in scars commentary as well.

akko :

Deonss. :

ok,what?..i Will throw my phone if it's true until i can't use it anymore

Sal :

bro Mizi was mentioned ONCE in scars and it was about him looking back on how his love for her was childish I get what y’all mean about mvl and it’s annoying but can we not act as if scars was ever stated to be abt Mizi