@luckyleftie: a psa pre-sunrise! PLEASE. please resist the impulse.

Josh :

omg this but with The Handmaid’s Tale

isabella rosalie :

this especially when people say we need a katniss everdeen. people couldn’t even handle greta thunberg

Burgernaut :

its literally called THE CAPITAL. CAPITAL. CAPITALISM. like OMFG its RIGHT THERE.

Finn :

Guy who’s only seen one movie about fascism voice: this fascism reminds me of a movie

Anita 🤎 :

I think those people should read more political theory rather than dystopia

Darkpuka :

It also explicitly doesn't critique religious oppression

BroBuyMeFood :

I think the hunger games can be a great allegory for class and late stage capitalism but people need to be VERY careful when using any parts of it as an allegory for race. I feel the same way about a lot of dystopian media tbh, I think a lot of this is because a lot of popular modern dystopia is written by white authors but I’m sure there could be lots of other reasons.

maddie :

i agree, the only phrase that should be repeated as such is “remember who the real enemy is”

kowynnie :

this is a similar problem when people liken all genocides to the holocaust. it ignores important context and unique material conditions that need to be understood individually in order for any change to be made.

Retodelbar03 :

It’s frustrating too, because I truly think the hunger games could be a really good way of radicalizing people, but the studios and publishers, have done a lot of thing to neuter the more revolutionary elements of the franchise by turning it into that, a franchise, with toys, especial releases, commodifying the story to no end

Klo :

This but when indigenous people were crying over a tree that was so old being cut down and people compared it to the Avatar (blue aliens) movies….

Bartaway :

Yes but also many resistance movements have themselves borrowed from Hunger Games imagery. Especially in Myanmar, for example. So, it works.

Shiera :

Thank you so much, I said recently that whenever someone starts using the Hunger Games as a reference for real life oppression I clock out. Why? Because it’s a privilege that the first example of brutal oppression you can think of is a fictional one

oven_significance :

"Getting a lot of boss baby vibes"

Ireland Wolfe✪४ :

I understand ur point but like… do you not think art matters and connects and reflects real life?? Like i fear that’s why she wrote the book. And yeah it’s weird to conflate everything to the hunger games but the point of her writing the book was to write it based on the US and other horrible things governments have done in the past and continue to do. Like it’s not just supposed to be an entertaining book. Like I fear that’s the point

Lili :

A lot of fans think that relating to something means it’s a 1:1

August Echo 🪲 :

if we’re talking quotes and obv inappropriate comments then fs but idk, the book is intended to be based on the vietnam and iraq war, where children were disproportionately targeted by the US and televised internationally so i feel there is def a tie to modern imperialism beyond class conflict

gatewaygayz :

YES, YES, YES. FUCKING YES. 🙏🏻

Bsmuth :

Butchbait :

And then watching everyone run to multiple theaters to get all the custom popcorn buckets as if that kind of consumption isn't the exact behavior the capital itself is supposed to highlight

Justin Stryker :

Heavy on it being an introductory text. I really do love the series, but it's criticisms are fairly surface level. In a way it's clear Suzanne has a much higher level of understanding, obviously, but there are so many limitations considering it is a YA Dystopia. There's only so much you can explore when you're just trying to get the base ideals across to children.

🦦OTTER🦦 :

saw someone saying that Justin Bieber is real life Finnick Odair.

nixin-maberries :

it pmo soooo much when the patriot games came out and everyone was saying he was "literally making the hunger games" like yes I have to much to critique about that man but no he wasnt?? the problem with the hunger games isn't the competition, it's that they were FORCING CHILDREN TO KILL EACH OTHER

Druv :

I would really recommend reading Black skin white masks and The Wretched of The Earth, both written by black Martinique philosopher Frantz Fanon. Fiction books aren’t enough, you need to educate yourself based on real life examples

Nope. :

Read more dystopia but also just read more 😂