@sacred_waters_sam: I am in love wirh my 20 carey- all thermal tumbler! it fits perfectly in my outdoor patio furniture- in my vehicle, and goes wirh me everywhere! dont get me started on the amount of times ive dropped this thing, to share the durability of it- but my favorite part is the length the thermal insole(for lack of a better phrase) works at keeping your cool drinks cold and your hot drinks hot ( between 4 and 6 hours!) its so amazing I can carry my soup, coffee, cacoa, tea; hell- even water.. it dont carea! All this cup does is maintain the temp you put in it!