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Wouter :
Bob asks a really good question if Allah deceived the disciples of Jesus tricking them into thinking that Jesus died by Crucifixion but wasn't really crucified and the disciples went and preached that Jesus rose from the dead then how do they know that Allah isn't deceiving them now how would they be able to recognize the deception of Allah?
2026-06-24 09:21:49
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Constitutional Mike :
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2026-06-24 02:42:21
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Book of Refutations :
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2026-06-25 04:09:43
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Nick T :
PSA: if your religion imposes death penalty for people who leave, then it's not a religion it's a cult.
2026-06-24 00:43:23
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ThatGuyFromVB :
Jesus didn't deceive anyone, but Islam deceives all
2026-06-24 00:48:59
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Cyberranger :
He's trying to make a philosophical argument against the Qur'anic claim in Surah 4:157 that Jesus was not crucified but that it was "made to appear so" to people. . His argument goes like this: 1. If Allah caused people to believe Jesus was crucified when he wasn't, then Allah intentionally deceived people. 2. A perfect God should not deceive. 3. If God deceived once, how can anyone trust what He says now? 4. Therefore, the Qur'an's account becomes unreliable. . The core of his argument is not really about the crucifixion itself. It's about trustworthiness. He's attempting to say: "A God who deceives cannot be trusted." . The Muslim response A Muslim would challenge his premises: The Qur'an never says Allah "lied." . The Qur'an says the enemies of Jesus plotted, and Allah saved Jesus (Qur'an 3:54, 4:157). . Deception used against criminals, oppressors, or enemies is not the same as lying to innocent believers. . Even in the Bible, God allows people to be misled as a judgment on those who reject truth. . For example, Christians themselves accept passages where God sends or permits delusion: . 2 Thessalonians 2:11: "God sends them a strong delusion." . 1 Kings 22:22: a lying spirit is permitted to deceive Ahab's prophets. . So if his standard is: > "Any divine act that results in people being deceived means God cannot be trusted," . then that criticism would also create difficulties for some biblical passages. . The deeper issue . The real debate is: Does "makr" (planning/counter-planning) in the Qur'an mean immoral deception, or does it mean God outmaneuvering those who were plotting evil? . Muslims argue the latter. Critics argue the former. . So he is trying to prove that: If Allah caused the crucifixion illusion, then Allah is a deceiver; and if Allah is a deceiver, Islam cannot be trusted. . Whether that conclusion follows depends entirely on whether one accepts his definition of "deception" and whether the Qur'an actually teaches what he claims it teaches.
2026-06-24 00:55:40
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Monopoly KSA :
No disciple witnessed Jesus crucifixion. Satan wanted Jesus crucified Allah didn’t.
2026-06-25 04:36:04
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👑 KING 👑 :
in Gospel of Matthew 4/8, "Satan took Jesus" to the highest mountain.
2026-06-25 06:13:31
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noone :
but jesus didnt no of Christianity he died 300 years before?
2026-06-24 14:57:56
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🅿️®️🅾️DIGY@🇿🇦 :
Do these hypocrites not read their own bible before making accusations against other religions, because it it explicitly states in Thessalonians 2:11, For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie. 💀
2026-06-24 06:43:26
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💕GM :
Nonsense argument. Where does the Qur’an say that Allah deceived people into believing Jesus was crucified? It doesn’t. The Qur’an simply says: “They did not kill him, nor crucify him, but it appeared so to them.” (4:157) Notice it does not say Allah deceived anyone. It does not say Allah made people believe a lie. It simply states that Jesus was not crucified, even though it appeared that way to those witnessing the event. You’re adding details that are not in the text and then arguing against your own invention. The Qur’an says what happened. Your claim that Allah deceived people is something you inserted into the verse yourself.
2026-06-24 17:24:05
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Tahir طاهر :
This question goes to him why they are Christians in the first century that believe Jesus wasn’t crucified way more years before Islam.
2026-06-25 11:53:11
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