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Please be respectful to the original creator in the comments.  @that_one_exmo if I've missed any pre-1884 sources that corroborate this story, please let me know.  I'm late to the game in responding to this older video, but here are some notes I didn't include in my response that may be useful to viewers: - Braden's argument seems like a gish gallop to me. It seems like he was just throwing the whole bowl of spaghetti at the wall and hoping that something would stick. Looks like this particular rumor did.  - It's unclear whether or not the
Please be respectful to the original creator in the comments. @that_one_exmo if I've missed any pre-1884 sources that corroborate this story, please let me know. I'm late to the game in responding to this older video, but here are some notes I didn't include in my response that may be useful to viewers: - Braden's argument seems like a gish gallop to me. It seems like he was just throwing the whole bowl of spaghetti at the wall and hoping that something would stick. Looks like this particular rumor did. - It's unclear whether or not the "Eli" suspected of being in the mob had the last name "Johnson." And even if he did have that last name, it doesn't necessarily mean it must have been Marinda's uncle, Eli -- but it could have been. If it was her uncle, and he was there because of Joseph's impropriety, then it seems odd that we have no record of it until half a century later, at least second-hand. - The claim that Joseph was targeted because of sexual impropriety also would *not* explain why Sidney Rigdon was also tarred and feather. - It's true that about 10 years after this event, Marinda was sealed to Joseph as a plural wife (historians disagree on whether it was a marriage for "time," "eternity," or for "time & eternity"). Scholars like Brian Hales point to an eternity-only sealing, since she was married civilly to Orson Hyde (she and Hyde had 10 kids together, as per her FamilySearch profile). In any case, as per her own testimony, Marinda didn't feel like Joseph did anything improper with or around her. - I think that the basis for the Eli/Edward claim miiight be from an entry in History of the Church 1:260, which mentions Eli & Edward Johnson in a list of recent apostates (it's not totally clear if they are relatives of the immediate Johnson family, but it's possible). The next entry talks about the tarring and feathering. So we see the names Eli/Edward in proximity to the event in question, but only the name "Eli" (and not "Johnson") is directly tied to it. Additionally, no mention of a motive from either individual is written.

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